218 | Are You Ready For Radical Self Acceptance

WITH STEFANIE EDWARDS

 
 
 
The marriage between action and energy is so important, allowing ourselves to believe while also taking action.
— Andrea Crisp
 

About This Episode:

Do you feel completely disconnected body, soul, and spirit? That is how I felt 75 days ago (right before I started 75 Hard). I was struggling to show up for myself and my business because I lacked the energy. My friend Stefanie suggested we do 75 Hard together and with some quick decision-making, we decided to commit on the spot. Today on the podcast we are sharing this life-changing journey with you.

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Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

 

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Has there ever been something that you really wanted to do? But you felt like it was impossible, like there was no way you could ever achieve this outcome? Well, when I heard of 75 hard, that was exactly how I felt. That was until my friend Stephanie, recommended we do it together. Today in the podcast, Stephanie and I chat about our journey through 75 hard, and we're going to tell you all about it, what it is and how it transformed our lives and business.

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You're listening to The Couragecast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely. Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose. With a blend of practical and spiritual advice. We'll help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and competence coach, author, and your secret weapon.

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Hey there, welcome to The Couragecast. My name is Andrea Crisp, and I am so excited that you are joining me today. If we are connected on Instagram, you may have noticed that I have been posting over the past few months about a journey that I had been on called 75 Hard. So today on the show, I am going to unpack what I have experienced over the past 75 days. And my friend Stephanie Edwards is also going to be joining me on the show, talking about how it has impacted her life as well. So without further ado, here is my conversation with Stephanie Edwards.

Stephanie Edwards, we are back. I am so excited to have you back on the podcast today. And I think it's been like almost a year. Since you are on the show. And man, we have had quite the journey over the past year, but especially over the past 75 days, which is why I invited you back onto the podcast. And those of the people who have listened to the podcast, or maybe even followed me on Instagram, maybe don't realize that I am actually doing this journey with another person. 75 hard. But here you are. You get to tell part of your journey as well as you know me telling a little bit of mine. But before we get into that, I would love for people to kind of get to know you. And just feel free to share a little bit about yourself. Those of you who have met Stephanie before, I will link to her original podcast on here and you can take a listen. It's a great episode. But I'll I'll let you go with it. Tell us a little bit who you are.

2:48
Hello, everybody. Yes. So I get to hang out with Andrea. Every week, we chat about all kinds of things. And so it's fun just to bring this conversation here and have this conversation now with you guys. It's yeah, when was it? So however long ago that we started 75 hard, I had this idea, it just popped into my social feed about 75 hard and I brought it to Andrea one day on our weekly call. And she was like, let's do it, we can start today.

2:54
We did.

3:23
That's kind of been the energy that we took into this undertaking, I guess it's gonna say project. But it's really been way more than that. And I introducing myself, I started there because so much has changed about me and who I am and what I've embraced and bodied, and all these different things since beginning this journey.

I love how you say that and start start with that because it is definitely has been a transformational 75 days, like we're, we're not to the exact end. But by the time this podcast airs, we will have just concluded the official version of 75 Hard well talk about, you know, where we go from here and how that is going to look for each of us. But, you know, in this journey together and actually walking it out, you know, where we started, where you started? And where I started, is, you know, I don't think I'm showing up as the same person. I don't know if you'd say the same thing.

But we have both shifted, and I felt that big way. Okay, so let's kind of start there. Yeah. Can you remember what you were feeling like how you were showing up? When this started?

4:41
Terrible. I was feeling terrible about myself. I think you know, I was really at a point where I was so low energy. And I think I had said to you on one of our calls. We we do talk once a week and this is something we've been doing doing for a year. So those of you who don't know Stephanie as somebody who is really expanding in my life. And so when we have these conversations, we talk about anything from, you know, business to life to health and fitness to money, to dreams to manifestation.

We talk about, we seriously have all the conversations. Yeah. And so when when I was talking to you that day, I was, you know, just really telling you that I had been on a call in my Unblock Abundance group that I was a part of. And I was sharing with them how I had just really been feeling like, the next step for me was really to take my, my health and fitness seriously. And I was really low energy. And I was finding that it was really hard for me to put into practice the things that I really wanted to put into practice when it came to finances. Because I was always tired. And that's when you said to me, you're like, Well, you know, I've been thinking about, you know, doing 75 hard. Do you want to do it? And I was I literally jumped on it and said, Yes. Let's start today. Yes. And so that's why I love by the way, because you don't have to wait to start till Monday. Yeah, we start literally, we started on the Wednesday. We started on a Wednesday, just like done like let's No, no need to make a plan. No need to have any other decisions made. Like we're just diving in. Okay, love that. So for the person who's never heard of 75 heard, right. So like, Now, tell them to explain. Yeah, you go ahead. You explain what is it exactly.

6:39
So 75 Hard was, oh, I don't even remember his name. I'm sorry. It was created by a guy. And it's just here's your plan that you're going to follow for the next 75 days. No exceptions, no excuses, you're going to do it. So what is it that you're doing, you're going to drink a gallon of water every single day. So to hydrate, you're going to follow a meal plan and you get to choose what that is that you're going to stay committed to it for 75 days, you're going to work out twice a day, one of which must be outside, no exceptions. And it's for 45 minutes apiece, each workout, you're going to read a physical nonfiction book. And I say that because he says no audio books aloud.

And so we were opening up our minds to own different kinds of things by reading all these new books, at least 10 pages a day. And take a picture. And that's the one I always forget. Every single day to track your progress. Yeah. Oh, and no alcohol. Yeah. Yeah, I think. Yeah. And, you know, it's so funny.

7:41
Because at the beginning, I said, Okay, well, what are we going to do to stay accountable? Yeah. And you're like, I don't know. And I said, Well, we're gonna, why don't we send each other our our progress picture every day? And you were like, what?

7:55
That was not something I was excited about. Like, what do you mean?

8:01
And there's something even just starting there, that honestly has shifted for me. And because, you know, it's funny, like, there was like, maybe two or three places locations that I took that picture, every time. Yeah, and but I got to a point where I was able to stand in front of the mirror, full length mirror, and take a picture of myself every single day without

just wanting to berate myself, like wanting to be like, Oh, I hate this or this. And it wasn't about like, How good can I look? Or, you know, it wasn't about that it was about I'm doing this for me. And this is a, you know, this is for me, and this is to document it. And I would take the picture. And I stopped worrying about what I looked like, over the 75 days. Yes, definitely.

8:57
Yeah. I had to going back to because you called me out on it, but I did it feel that, like, I have to send Andrea this picture every day. And the reason I did that, in case for listeners, we live in different countries. So we have yet to meet in person, even though we talk every single week and have for over a year. We live in different countries. And so Andrew has seen me on Zoom and zoom is like you know, chest up, right? And she sees me on Instagram, but once again, I curate those pictures. I don't buy workout pictures on Instagram typically. So Andrea has necessarily no idea of what I look like chest down. And that really got in my head because like oh my goodness, now she's gonna see that I'm overweight. And as if like I was hiding that before because I don't but anyhow, it was just like Like, I had all this mind drama about it. And I remember Do you remember I said, Okay, I'll just send you had pictures. Yeah. Like, I was like,

Okay, I'm just gonna send this image of myself. And that's one of the biggest things that I've shifted, because she's now seeing all of me, I've sent her all kinds of pictures at all different points in the day and like hot, sweaty messes to, you know, makeup done, whatever. But like, I'm not hiding anymore in my pictures. And I feel that because I'm not hiding anymore in who I am. And it's because of the expansion that I had going through this journey.

And the shift that I felt and so I was like, it's okay to be fully present. And that means allowing myself to be fully seen. And so that was a big shift to for me is to be able to release my own stigma. And because that's all it is, it's my own judgment against myself about what I think I look like.

11:00
I totally agree with that. Like, I'm, I'm right there with you. I think there's oftentimes like, where I look back, even just on a picture that I came across the other day, wasn't this year, but it was a couple years ago. And I looked at and I was like wow, Andrea. Like what in the world and, and I think I stopped having compassion for myself, somewhere along the way. And this gave me this compassion, but also acceptance for myself in the change, you know, like, as I was working through,you know, how my body looks and how I feel in my body, right? As we go through the process, there's a lot of the aspects of 75 hard that felt easy to me. Yeah, like no alcohol. I was like, Well, I rarely drink anyways, not a big deal. So I found that was like, super easy. Where I know for some people, they would be like, Oh, that's really hard. And how can you do that for 75 days? And I want to know, from your perspective, like, what was the easy part of it for you? And what was the hard part of it for you?

12:20
Yeah. I'm leaning into that question. That's why I'm pausing for a second because it was still kind of thinking about the shift with taking the picture.

And the releasing the judgment, I think that was the hardest part. And so tying that back in it, because it's when we are seeing ourselves only in one way, and we can't see what others can see in us which, FYI, one of the reasons I've continued to have these amazing conversations with Andrea every week is because Andrea calls out and sees things in me that I limit myself, I don't allow myself to see all the time.And vice versa, like I feel like this is a gift that we give each other.

And so but going through 75 hard, because every day I had to show up, and do something to take care of my body, so that my body could also give that to me, what I was asking of it was I had to make that shift. And that's where the greater self love and the compassion like you were speaking to, started to evolve and started to come in as I was releasing the judgment, because I was like, wow, what are these new things called endorphins.

We don't doing these intense workouts in the morning that now I'm more awake. Now I feel more alive in my body. And my body certainly feel better throughout the day. So now I want to move my body more like and I started to, I talked about my body as if it's a separate entity, sometimes, so hang with me. But like, I get to this place where I'm like, I was not loving my body. I was so miserable with how I felt and how I looked, or the judgment I was putting on myself. So yeah, I felt like you know, just like exhausted and frumpy every day. And now it's like I'm getting up and I'm moving first thing in the morning and I'm having gratitude for how my body is working. And now how it's like lighting up and feeling better. And that's got easier and easier. The further I went that now it's like, I wake up at 5am I'm at the gym at six. I'm working out for an hour. Like that wasn't me that first week. I mean it was but I was dragging myself to do it. Whereas now it's like I want to go. You had a huge transformation when you started going and you shifted from doing your yoga classes in the morning to doing a rowing class and that is like probably I want to say after like, I don't know, four or five days.

As of rowing, I could notice a huge change in you when it came to like, how you were feeling about the journey and yourself. Yes. So tell us a little bit about what happened, then. Yes. And okay, so rowing, if you don't know, because I honestly had no idea what rowing was. It's like, based on the idea of like being in a boat rowing, and taking that sport, and they have these machines called ERGs, or rowing machines, and you're, you're moving your, like, 80% of your body is activated in this class, because it's your legs, your abs, your arms, all these different body parts. And it's like high impact aerobics without the stress in your body. So I say all it is because I was completely fascinated by it. But I was in my first week, my yoga class only met certain days of the week. And I was like, I really would like to have my workout done first thing in the morning, at least one of them. That was my intention. That was what I was wanting. And then I thought about it, I was like, okay, but where else could I go. And I really don't want to lift weights. And like I just had all these things are like, I don't want this. I don't want this. But I don't know what to do want besides an early morning workout class, that's going to be awesome. It's going to feel great. And just setting that intention of what I didn't want. And where I was being clear, even though I yet didn't know about rowing, I completely manifested a rowing class, it's only a 10 minute drive from my house. It's so easy it first thing in the morning, and is this awesome environment, so much energy in the class, I build off of that I have an amazing workout in the rest of the day, my tone is totally different. I manifested that out of nowhere, like, I didn't even know it existed is the point of what I'm trying to stress here. And it came into my world and I just trusted I was like, okay, and I just bought it immediately. And it has been the biggest transformation. I've been doing it for two months now. I go five times a week. It is it's life giving to me. And because it's activating my body in a different way that I had honestly gotten to a point where I was like, Okay, this isn't possible for me. I'm not a runner. I'm not a this guy was just like saying, I'm not all these things. And it taught me No, I am. I just had to find what lights me up that is jamming with my energy and it's it's brought out more energy from me. That's awesome. You know, it's funny, I did not go to the gym, except for once.

17:31
75 days. But what I did in the morning was I started doing a really early morning walk with the dog. And, you know, it's funny because you're like, Okay, well, big deal. But my dog at that point, when we started 75 hard, was not walking very well on the leash at all. So for me, you know, my my walks consisted of going out into the woods every day, and I had to drive out there and there was like a whole thing. It was just a whole thing. And I had made a an intention towards at a certain time in the summer, which we haven't even like reached technical summer yet that I would walk to a certain point in my work from my house with my dog and back. Well, within, I don't know, three days of me getting up early. I had already hit that marker. And it was the first time because there was no dogs out on the street. She was you know, easy to walk on the leash. And we did it every morning. And our ears just flickered as I said that.

And eventually what we were doing is we were taking walks. You know, in the morning, we were taking a walk in the afternoon, we were taking a walk in the evening. And it was you know, it was good for her. It was good for me. And I started to really see like the very thing that I I guess I was really struggling with which is you know, like, how am I gonna get this dog to do this was really honestly, Stephanie. My energy that had to shift? Yes, because I was showing up frustrated trying to do it with her all the time. And in the morning, you know, I was halfway be like crawling out of bed. And again, I'm in Canada, you're in Tennessee. So it was a little cooler when we first started here. Yeah, I you know, there was still like, you know, starting Oh, yeah, like I mean, we were not it wasn't like summertime here. And I was getting up and doing this walk and I noticed how I was showing up differently with her. Yeah, and that was my first indication to me that there was something happening, that this wasn't just about, you know, my fitness. It was about what am I capable of and what do I believe to be true for my life and for myself? Yes. And so, yeah, I like it.

20:00
It was the release of some resistance.

20:02
Absolutely. Because I have felt, yeah, I've had a lot of resistance around, you know, the way I did things, things had to be a certain way. And if I'm just really honest about it, like, there have been times in my life where I did better cardio than the past 75 days. Yeah, I have not been great to do the cardio I, I can run I do run. I didn't run except for once. I really just didn't do that. I think for me, this was a journey about expansion for me, and really leaning into the possibility and staying in things. When it when I didn't feel like I wanted to, or it didn't feel hard, or I was like, Oh, is this over yet? You know?

And for me, that's kind of where I felt like it was like, no, just keep going, just keep going. Because I think so often, we think all of the things that we have to do in life are going to be this Picture Perfect journey. And we don't really share like, oh, no, it actually wasn't that picture. Perfect. It you know, there were there were times where it was difficult.

So I wanted to ask you a couple questions. And I kind of divided them into little like, snippets, but how has your life changed? And I'm gonna go into different things. I'm gonna also go into your outlook, or start with a huge question, your outlook, your health and your business. Okay, so I want like, but just how would you say in general, like, and you don't have to, like say like, you know, all of your like, you know, gory secrets or anything, but your life in general has now changed? What changed? For sure. For sure. Yeah.

21:48
And yeah, like picking up what you were just talking about, like, it's the release of so much resistance. And for me, resistance shows up a lot of times it's judgment.

And so I resist moving into do things because I'm judging, like, for example, with the higher energy aerobics like, I didn't even know that rowing existed, but I didn't even think I could do that anymore, because of the knee pain that I had. So I resisted even trying, and moving my body in that way, because I was judging myself that I was too old, I was too fat, I was too all these things to be able to do that. And this 75 hard, I have been doing subconscious work as well throughout this process, which is something extra. But all of this has shifted my perspective to be like, Okay, there's my thought I found it. But is that really what is only possible for me? Or am I in resistance? Am I judging myself somehow? And that's huge, because I'm working on judging myself a lot less, judging others a lot less, like I catch it in random ways. judging somebody just for what they're wearing. I'm like, Why, why, why that's none of my business. Like, why am I doing and just being aware of this s come out of this process? So same thing, like putting that back at you like, how has this like, outside of just the activity of moving our bodies and taking care of our bodies? How has it opened up?

23:23
So much more for you, you know, I have always had this like thought in my mind where I had to compartmentalize what I was doing. So if I was going to focus on one thing it was, could only be the one thing, but it just so happened that I was working on my finances and my abundance mindset. Yeah, it was, you know, just so happened to coincide of the fact that we were doing 75 hard at the same time, you and I, we were talking about the expansion we are experiencing. And then you and I also, you know, kind of really got, you know, dialed into some teachings on the subconscious, you know, more from Bob Proctor, Proctor Gallagher. And we talked about that at some serious length. And then, you know, just crazy things started opening up for me, like, for example, a friend of mine was posting about a coach that needed to get some hours for her

ICF credentials. And she's doing coaching, so I jumped in on it. And now she's coaching me in relationships. And that was something I was like thinking there's no way that I could focus on abundance, relationships, health, and also do the subconscious work at the same time. Not a chance. And I think I've started to see how much more capacity I have. Huh? Because 75 Hard was like, you know, did you do the two walks was one outside. Did you drink all the water? I mean, those things seem a lot easier now.

And then they did at the beginning. But it was like, there was a list of things I had to do besides the fact of working besides the fact of like actually being present in life, and doing all, you know, working with clients, all those things, you know, I started to realize, yes, I have capacity, greater capacity for these things in my life. And I don't have to, like, defer them continue to defer what it is that I desire for another time in my life. So that, to me was the biggest, the biggest one. Now. How about your outlook? Like, your outlook on? What, what you want moving forward? Now, like, how is that shifted?

25:44
A lot, the shift is remarkable, because my outlook is much more positive. Because my energy is much more positive. I'm carrying with me. So and like, it's, it's like a charge is the best way to describe it, because I was so negatively charged before. And you didn't even think I was a negative person. It was once again, the judgments and the own doubt that I had in myself, and I was carrying the shame about my body, to lighting myself up with this energy, both naturally, that's coming from the endorphins I'm releasing every day. And also from the mental work that I'm doing. And it's, I feel so much better.

Because I've activated, cleaner,more conscious, more empowering energy every single day.

26:38
Do you find like, you know, talking about vibrational frequency that that shifted for you. And your outlook was able to change because, like, I even found as I was, like, starting to eat more healthy and less sugar, I was, you know, like, Oh, I feel so much better. And all the sudden you're just even there, it's like your outlook is better, because it's like, I felt less foggy, I felt clearer.

And that was a huge thing for me was thinking like, wow, like, it's amazing how we want so many things in life. And yet when it comes to, you know, the vibrational frequency or physical body is on that we're clogging it up and jumping.

And, you know, it hasn't been a perfect go for me, you know, like I've had, you know, ebbs and flows in it. But for the most part, I have really done pretty well. And so I'm very end even like this morning getting up and I again, I feel clearer, I feel, you know, capable of making decisions.

Your health, How's your health changed

27:54
a lot. Like bringing it back to what you were just saying about the food. It didn't realize, I thought it was a pretty healthy eater.

But I chose my meal plan to eliminate two ingredients out of my diet. And that was it. That was my only change name as I was going to remove these two ingredients. And just by doing that, I've been able to regulate my blood sugar. And

at least that's what I call it. But it's like, because I'm not having these ups and downs in these crashes and not having them like you said the brain fog. I also already drank a lot of water. But now I'm drinking a gallon of water, which does make a difference. Yep. And it's that has like cleared up

my brain as well. And I can't even until you are there in your experience it you can't fully understand how much better you are going to feel on the other side of it. Because it's not just one thing. It's your whole body opening up. And to give you an example of this, like I've been on a couple I was just on a call last week.

Nobody on that group had seen me since I started 75 hard in hearing I'm now at the end of it. So I've had plenty of time for my body to be fully hydrated and nourished and all the ways like a and people were like 70 You look like you're glowing about me on zoom.

No makeup is different. No anything is different. Like it's just I am different yet and I'm literally glowing from the inside out. Yeah. Because my body feels better. And my energy is that Yeah.

29:37
Same thing. I would I 100% agree with that. I would say like people have noticed it and they said stuff like you just showing up differently. Yeah, and I'm like I am and it's funny because I'm like I don't you know I don't know I'm not doing anything different. You know, I'm just but I do feel a difference. There has been times where

I've had, you know, some frustrations around like, oh, things are still not fitting the way I want to fit, you know. And that kind of went into my old mindset of like, you know, this is just about weight. And this is just about how I look.

But really, for me, one of the things that just like, like recently shifted for me was, I really started to understand that when it comes to love, when it comes to self love, that if I can't love myself as I am, then how can I expect that someone would love me and accept me the way I am? And I don't necessarily think that I want to stay the same. You know, I think that, you know, as we're talking about this, there's so many areas of our lives that are expanding, and shifting right. And I will continue to do that in every way. But in the same way, I was starting to see that okay, well, you know, full disclosure, at this point, I only lost five pounds. Okay. I wanted it to be 20. That did not happen. So, you know, they're the old program running is like, well see, you only lost five pounds. And I've started to really see like, No, this was more about learning to love myself, and love my body. And, and be in this place of like, just radical self acceptance. Yes. And, and feel like for me, that that's how I feel about myself. And so when I see myself or show up for things, people are saying, well, you're glowing, or you've shifted like, Wow, I feel like that's what I'm showing. Yes, I'm honoring myself in a way that I haven't. And it's not just by what I'm doing. But how I perceive myself, which I think is a big shift.

32:01
I think that's been a big theme for you throughout this process. We've had that conversation a good bit diving into that is, how are you going to honor yourself?

Yeah, in all different kinds of ways that's come up for you. And yes, because it's de restated, again, for anybody who's interested in trying a journey like this. It is not just about what you are getting up, or what you are doing physically to move your body. Yeah, it is all the other shifts that are going to come out of this. Yes. Because when I tell people about it, they're like, Oh, that's not for me. I could never work out that much. You're gonna do a whole gallon of water a day.

32:42
Let's say like, oh, you lost me. I can't have alcohol. Or you lost me. I have to read. I'm like, I have to read. Yeah. That's why last year, I was like, wow, I was like, you know? Yeah, once again, no judge yet from where you're at. And it's just so interesting how immediately, we are noticing, because to us now, it's become a way of living? Yeah.

33:06
And we're just like, No, it is freed up more time, we have more energy, like, you're gonna just feel so much better. But once again, you have to be in the right space to accept it into your life and be ready to experience a change. Because it's a commitment you've got to buy into. Yeah, and if you're not sold on that, we can, you don't have the accountability. I mean, we were lucky to have each other every single day. And we were encouraging each other to keep going in, you know, now, it's like, we just post our pictures. We don't even have to say anything back and forth. But in the beginning, we were like, how are you doing? It's okay, yeah, this is really hard. Like we were Yeah, we were really encouraging and holding each other in that space as we needed it.

33:47
And I noticed that even like, you know, coming towards the end of like, putting push putting the pictures in, it was more for me. It was It wasn't like, you know, I need her to see this. It's like, no, I need to do it so that I did it. You know, and that was what it became because like, there was never any point in time where I was like, seeing your pictures that I even was like, okay, like, you know, I didn't it was like there was if it was there or not there. It didn't matter when it was there or not there. The point wasn't, it was whether or not we were showing up for ourselves. Yes, that ended up being the biggest thing. Now, I have experienced and I know you have experienced too, but I'd love to hear how has your business transformed because of this? Yes. And this is fun, because I went into this feeling. I think wonky is a good word.

34:47
So I'm down with that. And just like chaotic in my mind about what I was going to do, and once again because there's always I'm I fight the judgment and

See how I wanted to present myself. And I just at the same time that we started this, I also went off social, I cleansed myself from that. I only just came back on last week. Because I was like, Oh, I feel like I have all these mixed signals. And I'm putting out mixed signals. And it just wasn't, I wasn't in a good space. And this process of growing through 75 hard, going through this journey experience has brought me to a better once again, belief in myself more energy, more focus, that I can make the commitment, because I could see what I was doing every single day.

Keeping this commitment to myself to do these workouts to eat this way, all these things. And it's like, wow, Stephanie, you're really disciplined. And wow, like, you can really do that like this. There's this kind of conversations, because I was deepening the gratitude that I had for myself, in my blog, you said the capacity for what we could hold. And it was like, I bet I could do this in my business. Like I bet I could, you know, because my business is me. Right? Like, it was like, I bet I could do it like this. And it just like, everything just started to get more clear, because I was shifting the belief I was having for myself. How about you? That's good.

36:21
That that's good. Yeah. Cuz shifting the belief about what's possible, right. And about what you have to offer, I think that stands out to me the most is just this unwavering belief that what I'm putting out into the world is needed and is valuable. And that don't have to second guess it. And there's going to be ebbs and flows within it.

I started a new program while we were doing this, yes, I launched and I'm about to launch another one. And so there were definitely things where I was, you know, showing up differently for myself and for for my clients. And I felt like in the process, like in this whole encompassing process that I elevated, where I'm going, yes, when it comes to my business, so the things that were important to me before or where I perceive I was no longer serving me. Yes. So I feel like I've been able to release a few things to let go and say, No, I don't want to do that anymore. That's not where I want to go. That's not who I want to work with. And I've kind of you know, just put it out into the universe and energetically and been like, okay, and I understand here's the thing. I'm totally get a rabbit trail here. But I'm with somebody who I've heard there's action that has to be taken, like, yes, so we both know that anybody's done. It was like, yes, that is so true. But when it comes to energy work, there, the marriage between action and energy is so important, because it's like allowing ourselves to believe energetically and hold space energetically for what we truly desire. Yes, also requires action. Yes. And I feel like there were times where I would slip back and forth between the two, I would go just in action mode, action, action, action, action, action. And then I would go into like, Oh, I'm just gonna meditate and hold space, and you know, all these lovely fun things. And then I was finding that with just the action, I was exhausted. With just the meditation, I was like, nothing's happening.

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And I didn't realize that there was a part that I needed to marry the two. And realize, as I elevated that I could continue to take these action steps and they didn't have to be huge all the time. Yes. Sometimes there were just little steps. Yeah, yes. You use two very powerful words to describe your energy. And I want to call it out so that the listeners grab this, you said unwavering and elevate it. We elevated our energy. So that means like before, where we were having struggles or disbelief, not holding space, like for what was really possible for us in what we were doing in our lives and our business and for our bodies. Like we've elevated that because our energy has risen. Our belief has shaped gotten stronger. And it's unwavering. Now, like before we would be so do you think about what unwavering is like solid? Yeah, definite firm. Make

And now we are energetic matches for things that we were not at the start of this. And that's what we're both feeling is because new things are coming into our lives. We're attracting different types of clients, because we are now energetic matches for them. Whereas before, we may have had an intention, but we weren't ready for it. No, no, and God's not going to give us what we're not ready for the key is going to match our energy like, and so now we're feeling it, we're stepping into that in a bigger way.That, to me, is the most profound thing I've gotten out of this.

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I totally agree. Like there was, there was something that happened the other day, and I literally just felt this huge, like, moment where it just like clicked, it all fell into place, in the sense of where I was, like, Oh, this is what this means. It just means that I am in a new space to really believe I deserve it, I'm worthy.

That this is a journey that I'm always gonna be shifting and changing. I'm always going to be growing. But I'm not at a deficit. I'm not in lack. i Not at you know, I'm not behind. I'm not you know, and now, you know, you were saying before, we were talking about working out and you're saying I'm not a runner, you know, like those are the things that used to go through your mind. Right? Right. And I remember what I used to identify not being a runner. And now I do even though I don't run all the time, I know I am capable of running, because there were years where I said I wasn't, and I legitimately did not run. And now I feel that I like I can identify as someone who is willing to be in this space to hold this space for myself. When it comes to, you know, eating well working out, growing my spirituality, my emotional bandwidth, my subconscious mind or programming, growing my business, you know, believing for, you know, relational things in my life, abundance, and really being able to say, yeah, like, I'm there.

I believe I'm not perfect. But on there. Yes.

42:27
Yeah. That being like, going back to where we started a conversation open to more possibilities. Yeah, it's, I heard somebody say one time, they're like, Okay, possibility, like, I bet you can believe most things could be possible. But is it really probable, like the odds are in your favor that it could happen? As I Oh, that's an interesting word description. But I, I'm there now, like I see the probability of things actually taking place, because it has shifted for you. And for me, what we are you capable of holding?

Yeah, the energy thing is such a big thing. And we've we've been doing this work. But we've also been studying a lot, like you said, give him credit, like with Bob Proctor.

And just understanding more and more about the energy work. And I've read different books about energy, I've been to see an energy healer a couple of times. Now, I don't even know that I was. First of all, I wasn't even aware any of this existed prior to

like this energy work type stuff. And then to go and be open to seeing somebody to do energy healing on trapped emotions. I didn't know what that was prior to this. But I was in the space that I was ready that when that information came, and then I was like, I would love to have a person like that in my life, I completely out of nowhere and manifest somebody whose lives like 10 minutes away from me that's willing to meet with me to do this work. And I did it for me and my son, like, it was amazing.

How just so many different things have come out of this, that we could just go on and on about all the amazing abundance of things that have happened. Yeah. And it's because we made a commitment to ourselves. And we didn't waver on that we stuck with the commitment and raised our energy that now we can see things differently. Like that's the premise of why this works. Yeah.

44:25
And, you know, if I was to go back and say, because my original goal, would love to lose 20 pounds. I did not last five. But what I trade that what I learned and what I experienced for 20 pounds. Heck now. Like, I can't even imagine now. Like just that being the goal. Like only loss of weight. Yes. You mean like I'm like, really? That's it? Like that's all I wanted, and I'm in the gift that I was given through showing up for myself every single day in this. Yeah. And by the end, I will reiterate again, not perfectly, because I did not do this perfectly was that I kept showing up? Yes. And even though I didn't do it perfectly, I wasn't like, well, you're gonna start over again. You know, it's just like, No, just keep going. Yes, that's it like it, there's no judgment of like, did you do this or not this. And I think that is probably one of the biggest lessons also, for me coming out of this is that, you know, I have judge myself so harshly in so many areas of my life for so long. That, you know, I wouldn't do things because unless it was going to be perfect. Or I could show up and just the exact way I wanted to, I would not do it, and get the exact result I'm looking for. Right, and the results that I have gotten. And I don't know if you'll say the same thing have far exceeded what I would have imagined if I would have just tried to be perfect in this journey.

46:13
So yeah, and there's the big business lesson, right? Like, instead of waiting to think that it's perfect before you can release something, put it out there and like, just keep going, keep putting it, keep moving forward, keep taking that action, just like we were doing here with this challenge. And what we are opening ourselves up to is far exceeds what we think we needed, or what we set that intention for what we were going for. Yeah, yeah. This has been this has been amazing. So what are you?

46:47
What are you going to do? How are you going to approach moving forward from here on out? Yes.

46:55
It has become such an ingrained part of my life that I can't imagine giving it up. My oldest child has been a part of this a lot with me, because he's been homeschooling throughout this journey. So he goes on Xbox and whatnot with me. And he's tried at times, it's really interesting to catch me like doing something wrong, or are you going to make it today? Are you really going to get that extra workout? And like,that's kind of a spirit sometimes. And then sometimes he's like, wow, we're already done with our walk. Like, we've gotten it so fast. And he catches that or like, the other day, he saw me jog with my kid. He's like, wow, you were actually running fast.

It has just changed in so many ways. And when when you hear a kid to give you honest, raw feedback, Oh, yeah. Like it's present. It's there and the model that I've set for him, I wouldn't give that up either. But I cannot imagine going back to being somebody who wakes up and immediately feels achy versus somebody who wakes up and it's like, let's go get this done. Yeah. And I look forward to what, that's what I'm going to feel like because then when I get home, and I've showered, and I dive into my work, my brain is already awake.

And I'm like, I'm not going to give that up. I'm like, I have come to this place where I'm like, because it Andrea had asked me this before, and she's like, What are you gonna do after I give it off? Yeah, it's so ingrained to know who I am, I'm going to keep going. Because why would I release these kinds of results? Now I know people have done it. And they, you know, for whatever reason, they they don't stay with it. Yeah. For me, it feels like the right thing to do. And I'm going to keep going for. Yeah, I love that. You know, for me, the, I think the one adaptation that I'm going to do, which I don't know, we'll see how this works. But is I'm going to implement some rest days.

48:55
I feel like that was maybe one of the hardest things for me was not feeling like on the days where I just my body really was saying like, You need to rest. Like, oh, I got to do these workouts. And I would just keep pushing through.

Because I have a dog. You know, there's a lot of the outside component of this that has to happen no matter what. Yeah. And so there's parts of it that are just going to stay with me, but I think what I've started to realize is like, you know, we had to do one one workout outside that was part of the deal as well. And so for me, I'm like, okay, that's easy. A 45 minute walk every single day with my dog is not a hard ask for me to do.

And also, I think for me, it'll be like, you know, on the days where I'm resting, it'll be just a walk and rest. Yeah, and that I think I will really try and implement I think otherwise I want to keep kind of the same thing going. I am

Not gonna lie looking forward to a nice glass of wine.As you know, a way to celebrate and also, you know, just you know, seeing how, but now it doesn't seem like this is something I do it just as a way I live. Yeah. So it kind of feels like after 75 days like this is very normal. I mean, I even to the amount of water and when I drink it, yeah. Like, I know how much water I need when I need to drink it. And if I drink it too late, I'll be up all night peeing. So yeah, so this is, this has been so amazing. And you know, at the end of the day, you ended up getting a puppy.

This week, you brought home a puppy, and, and so like, lots of lot of things have changed even for you, you know, when it comes to like how things are, are moving. So you're going to be doing some, some outdoor puppy walk, I definitely have more activities in my life. More on the horizon?

This is amazing. So what how can people connect with you what's kind of going on in your world that you can share with people I know, You've been so instrumental in my life helping me when it comes to really understanding who I am when it comes to how I show up, you know, with not only my messaging and marketing, and just really helping me kind of strategize things, but also really how I do it from a place of really understanding me. So what what are you doing right now that people can kind of jump in on?

51:43
Yes, if this conversation is interesting to you, then I encourage you to check out what I'm doing next. Because I am adapting this with manifestation with like getting clear and making that commitment to yourself for what you want. And I'm putting that together into a six week program. Taking the best parts of what we've done in 75, hard like activating your body, getting yourself into movement, I'm going to give you a specific plan on what you're going to eat, what you're going to be reading how you're going to be act, just like taking the things off of your plate. As far as how to make that decision, you just make the one time decision to go in, I'm gonna give you the support. So you stay committed to yourself, you have the accountability and like it is happening for six weeks that you can open yourself up to really see what you're capable of manifesting and bringing into your life. Because everything that we're talking about, has remarkably shaped, shifted, and transformed us into new versions of ourselves. And we're just more powerful women because of it. And I know that this is something I want to continue this work, yes, I dedicated for myself. But now I want to pour this back into other people's lives. And that's what this six week journey is going to be about. And I'm really, really excited about that taking place and showing people what they're capable of amazing. Well, I will link to that in the shownotes for people and I highly, highly encourage people to go and check it out. And get into your world because honestly, I am so grateful that we got to do this together. Like

53:32
I think I look back and go wow, like, you know, I mean, we're not done, we still have the rest of this week that we're we're on this journey together specifically. But I just feel like in this in this container that we held for one another in this space, that what a what a gift to learn and to grow and to manifest and to have expansion. You know, in so many ways, not just when it comes to our physical, you know, outcome, but when it comes to everything, so, thank you. Thank you for for pushing me, thank you for suggesting it. And I look forward to seeing how things kind of work out for you as they move forward. Yes, it's gonna be good for you and for me, amen. Over the past five days, I can honestly say that so much in my life has really shifted, and the one word that I really feel encompasses. My journey is expansion. And I am so grateful to Stephanie for being on this journey with me. It truly was really a catalyst for me to move forward. And that accountability that we all need when it comes to truly unlocking our potential and really moving forward in our lives, whether it's in our health, our business, our finances, really makes a difference in

So I think sometimes we have to get right back to the basics. And it seems simple. But in the same way it is so needed. And I love that Stephanie is stepping out and really offering something that is going to help you start moving forward in your own life with really actually opening up a six week program to do this work to have the same kind of expansion that we experienced when we were doing 75 hard. And so she is going to be launching unlocking your potential bootcamp. And during the six weeks, it's going to be amazing, because you're going to not only really start moving your physical body and release endorphins, but you're going to become more aware and connect with your subconscious programming, you're going to make decisions that are going to help you take action in your life and in your business. And really, you're going to put yourself in a position to manifest through guided meditations and becoming really aware of what you truly desire. And Stephanie is going to be offering some group calls during that time. And I'm also going to be there as well. So you'll have access to me during this process as well. I will leave all of the links in the show notes for you to connect with Stephanie, and jump into her program called unlocking your potential bootcamp. Friend, I'm so glad that I got to share this journey in my own life with you. I hope it inspired you. I hope it encouraged you that you can do so much more in your own life as well. And until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live bravely.

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215 | Step Into Energetic Alignment

WITH SARA McCREADY

 
 
 
Particularly for coaches, your self-care practice and your healing journey is critical to you being able to show up and clear that last little bit of debris, energetic debris.
— Sara McCready
 

About This Episode:

How important is it for you to be in the right energetic space when you're working with your clients or working in your business?

So often as coaches and entrepreneurs, we tend to bypass how we feel what's going on in our bodies, and really look for the strategy, look at things that we can implement, to help us grow in an area of business. But what are you doing when it comes to growing energetically?

Sara McCready is an Intuitive Toxic Relationship Coach + Reiki Master, Solopreneur, and lover of all things self-care healing and wellness. Her passions are working with energy and intuition, and normalizing spirituality for everyone.

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Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

 

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How important is it for you to be in the right energetic space, when you're working with your clients or working in your business? So often as coaches and entrepreneurs, we tend to bypass how we feel what's going on in our bodies, and really look for the strategy, look at things that we can implement, to help us grow in an area of business. But what are you doing when it comes to growing energetically?

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Particularly for coaches, your self care practice, your healing journey is critical to you being able to show up and that's actually how you and I ended up working together because you want it to be able to serve at a higher level. And clear that last little bit of debris, energetic debris that was you can feel it, but you couldn't identify it and you knew that it just needed like a little nudge, a little energetic nudge to be able to fully step into that best version of Andrea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And this is the thing about energy work.

You are working at, again, the energetic body, so working with the chakras, but it's my knowingness and my understanding of the chakra system that helps integrate those energies into your physical body. So our chakra system has a direct impact on our physical body and our mental bodies, so more emotional, mental and physical. And when we haven't done the energetic clearing or tuneups, there is stickiness in our real lives our everyday lives either as a coach or in our personal relationship. And it's the best way to move the needle on any situation is to examine the energetic aspect of it, you're listening to the courage cast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely.

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Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose. With a blend of practical and spiritual advice. We'll help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and confidence coach, author, and your secret weapon.

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Hey there, welcome to The Couragecast. My name is Andrea, I am your host. And I'm also a mindset and confidence coach. And I'll tell you friends, over the past few years, I have had huge amounts of growth in my life and in my business. And if it weren't for the healing that I've experienced in my own life, I have to tell you that I would not be in the place that I am today. And so I'm so excited to be able to share with you a conversation that I had in my Facebook group, the confident coach collective with my good friend and also my energy healer, Sara McCready, she goes by @illuminatedjoy, and we were able to chat about energy and how we need to move the energy through our bodies and how that affects our business and how we're showing up, you know, creating boundaries within our lives. And in our business. It's just such a rich, rich conversation. And it was such a good conversation that I wanted to put it here on the podcast as well so that you could hear it. And I just trust that this is really going to help you shift. And if you're having any difficulties in your own life you have, you want to experience more growth. I want you I want to encourage you to take a look at maybe where you're holding energetically things that can be released in your life, through Reiki, through hypnotherapy, through all sorts of modalities, but in this case, we're going to talk about some of the modalities that Sara does, which includes data, data, Reiki, all sorts of stuff. So anyways, without further ado, here is my conversation with Sara.

Hello, Sara, it's so good to chat with you this morning.

4:39
Hello, Andrea, thank you so much for having me. This is going to be an amazing conversation. I can't wait.

4:47
You know, it's so far we're we have to joke all the time about you know, technology. And it's like one of those things where it's taken us a little bit of time to figure out how we're going to do this today, but here we are. I'm excited. to chat with you and for people to get to know you a little bit better. And I love for you this like, I mean, I could introduce you, but you're better to introduce yourself because you know you. So tell us a little bit about who you are and who you serve.

5:18
Thank you. Yeah, so my name is Sara McCready. And my business name is I Illuminated joy. So I have been down a very windy path for the last three to four years. And it has led me into this very beautiful space of coaching, mentorship and energy healing. So I am a 25 years survivor of toxic relationships, I have been in multiple, highly toxic relationships. And it was the fourth relationship that resulted in a marriage and the dissolution of a marriage. That was the pinnacle that prepared me to be able to take this step in the healing direction. So to begin my healing journey, to start to unravel what a toxic relationship is, and what energy healing can do for you when you're in emotional recovery. So I started my own practice in, it'll be two years this September. So in September of 2020, I opened the doors to what was really going to be an in person service. And it has really transformed in the last year as a result of being open and close so many times. And it was through the through lock downs and closures that it became apparent that I was going to be using the online space as my avenue to connect with people. And to bring this work to the masses. And it's been so much more than I ever anticipated it would be it's been a huge learning curve, but at the same time, so expansive, and so rewarding to be able to move my entire practice on line from formerly in person services. So I work in the energy world. So lots of healing modalities that I practice, and the primary one is Reiki, but I also have a modality called Theta Healing. And I combine a lot of energy healing modalities as well, I've kind of cobbled them together to create my own healing modality that helps you go through any grief or trauma that you may have experienced that helps you unpack that and heal those wounds or that trauma that is preventing you from possibly stepping fully into your highest self or just really experiencing life at its fullest version.

8:27
Amazing. It's so amazing. Of course, I have experienced that myself, I've experienced your work. So I know what that that looks like. But I'm sure people, you know, maybe are curious or like, you know, energy yearling? What does that mean? Like how well you know, what is data? How do I how do I do all of these things? What does this even mean? So, when you're working with with people, what are you what are you doing, like what does that mean? Is it magic?

8:56
What? Actually, I have started saying it's magic because at least it's magic is relatable. However, it is it is relatable, but it's not just sleight of hand there is actual physical healing that takes place during an energy healing sessions. So, with the energy healing, you are working on what we call the energetic body or the aura, but there is actual physical healing that takes place as well. So, when I work with my clients, I take them into what they call theta brain wave state, so theta state and that is a hypnosis type of healing modality so you are guided into it In this very relaxed state, and it is through that relaxed state that I am able to connect into your energy. So there is some magic at play. And the magic really is learning to work with other people's energy. So we all have the ability to do this. And this is what I have been called to do through the trauma and the emotional healing that I went through, is to really recognize those aspects of myself that were always there but weren't really necessarily tapped into. So I use the word intuition or intuitive, I use my intuitive abilities. Some people refer to them as psychic abilities, to be able to help guide the conversations that I have with the clients, I'm able to pinpoint an experience that occurred in their lives, that can be what I call capital T trauma, or little T trauma, you know, traumas not always something super dramatic. It can be an experience that you had when you were younger. And it's left its mark. So those are the type of traumas that are little T traumas that can show up later in life as a block of some sort, that you don't really realize is there. And so there is, like I said, this connection between our physical bodies and our energetic bodies, we are all energy, everything is energy. And so it is working at the energetic level, clearing the chakra system, working with those points within your physical body that allow the release, the energy healing really provides this release for the client to process the emotions that went behind the experience the trauma.

12:30
Hmm, yeah. So it's, it's, it's having an opportunity for them to actually work energetically and heal, you know, some trauma that's taking place in their life. And you're kind of the guide.

12:42
Yeah, facilitating, I call it facilitating, I'm just I, I say I'm a channel I am the channel to facilitate this experience for you to help. The energy work really helps you process the emotion because we tap into the nervous system, we're able to relax the nervous system. And the energy work also expedites the healing, healing process. It because it allows your nervous system to relax, it allows more awareness around and experience than you would otherwise have. So it can happen more quickly. Because you're in a relaxed state, you can kind of connect the dots and put the pieces together a little more quickly than you would if you weren't using energy work to help process that experience or those emotions.

13:43
So I'm curious, like, you know, a lot of a lot of, you know, online entrepreneurs and coaches, you know, one of the things that I really stress when I'm talking with them is like, you know, your life is really, you know, your life and your business. Like they're there in tandem, they work together, what affects your life affects your business. If you're, if you're not in a place in your life, where you're feeling like you're worthy, or you're feeling, you know, valued or loved, or you've been, you know, going through different things in your life that outworks within your business, because, you know, at some level, we carry all of those things, you know, we are the business. So there's a lot of coaches, a lot of online entrepreneurs who are struggling with, you know, trying to figure out how do I, you know, get over this, you know, hurt or this, you know, rejection that I have been feeling, how does that work? When, you know, they come to you and they've maybe experienced some sort of rejection or wounding? How can how can you work with them to help them heal so that it actually benefits not only their life, but their business?

14:56
Hmm, that's a really great question. So So it goes back to what you were saying at the beginning of that, which is, it is all connected. So there, there is no separation between the person you are in your everyday life and the person you are in your business we bring to our businesses in our everyday lives, the same emotions and the same energy. Together and individually. So you're, again, it's not a separation between work and life. And so if there is something bothering you in your everyday life, if there's something that you haven't been able to release or process emotionally, if you've had an experience that was not, that was traumatic, like I said, either capital T, or lowercase t trauma, that can impact how we show up, and it shows up subtly. So those experiences that happen in our youth are not always remembered. And so as we go along, we develop ways of being coping mechanisms, the ways that we show up the way that we process information and emotions, without really realizing that we're even doing it in a way that's protective. And at a certain point in our lives, that becomes no longer beneficial for us to operate in that way that we had been. And it's usually around that point in time, when you're struggling with something in your everyday life or your business life, that you start to wonder why isn't this working? It's always worked before, why why doesn't this work for me now, and when I'm saying that I'm talking about either, you know, just ignoring things and sweeping them under the carpet, or just, you know, like, continuing to talk yourself up so that you can get through something that may have worked for you for a number of years, being really driven, just like having yourself scheduled to the hilt and being constantly driven. These are some of the coping mechanisms that we develop in our youth and that continue on, and they help us achieve and succeed. But then they stop. They work until they don't. And so when we arrive at that space in place where what was working before is no longer working, is when we need to start examining what is underneath that experience or that emotion that you're incurring at this stage and place in your life. So we get to with my clients, I get to what I call the bottom belief, we work energetically to understand what that programming was that bottom belief was that you've built your whole life around. And we dismantle it safely and gently. And again, this is all done through energetic healing, through awareness through conversation, and you're able to understand when we arrive in that place and space, you're able to understand how that programming worked for you before and how it's no longer working for you. And and then we build a new program that you begin to operate out of a new belief.

18:50
It's beautiful. Yeah, it's beautiful. And I know that you'd have powerful it Yeah. Powerful. I can say I can testify to that. You also work, you know, directly with relationship issues as well.

19:04
Yes, absolutely. That is the basis for how I've arrived here in this space in time, was as a result of the 25 years of relationships, four separate relationships. Like I said, there's a lot of wisdom and experience that has come from being inside of those relationships. And so I'm able to help the client identify how those patterns keep appearing not just in romantic relationships, but in our familial relationships, our friend relationships, our work relationships, colleagues, peers, that sort of thing. So yeah, I I'm able to help the client identify those patterns as well, and where they're showing up and what they look like because again, we're quite ate, oblivious to what that patterning is? Yeah, until we are in a position, like I said, where things aren't working anymore, and we're ready to address what's happening.

20:13
Yeah, exactly. So is this something that both men and women do like can do or work with you or? Yeah, rarely women are.

20:21
So in my, in my private practice, I typically am seeing women, but I have worked with men as well. This these modalities work for everybody there. They're not gender specific. So, yes. Men and women, the coaching program that I have outside of this is specifically for women who have left toxic relationships. But the Theta Healing program is for everybody.

21:00
Okay, awesome. And what is the the coaching program look like? What is that for, like you're mentioning for women?

21:07
Yeah, so I have a coaching program called the evolution path. And that was a program that was created last year for women who have left a toxic relationship. And I work with them to navigate the trauma and the drama and the chaos that you experience inside a toxic relationship. These relationships are very nuanced and very specific. And so this evolution PATH program was built specifically to help guide women who have left those relationships and want to move into that peace, clarity, calm and joy, it's, it's a very lengthy journey, when you've left a toxic relationship that requires multi layered healing. So the program that I built uses the energy healing, as well as the Theta Healing. And there's like specific components that we address inside of that program. So that's, that's the coaching program for women's specific, and then the theta healing modality is, like I said, it's for everybody, it's an amazing resource to be able to use when you're trying to take your game to the next level. So if you've, like I said, if you've noticed a pattern of behavior that's no longer serving you. And you can't really identify why you keep doing the same thing. Data healing is a fantastic modality to drill down on to what that bottom belief is usually, as a result of something that we've buried or suppressed, and then we're able to pull that and then install the new programming, or the new belief that helps you operate in your highest version, like the best version of yourself is where the theta healing modality will help you go.

23:21
Hmm, and I would like to add to that, because, you know, I've experienced it, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna give my take on it. Yeah, please. You know, it's really interesting. I think a lot of coaches and entrepreneurs are doing personal development work, right, they're doing this work in tandem with what they do, because they know how beneficial it is for their lives and for their business. But even as like a coach and somebody who is, you know, for me, you know, I'm doing all sorts of modalities I'm doing. Also, I'm working with clients doing this type of work. You know, when I think about, you know, when I'm feeling that I'm stuck somewhere, like I've come to you in multiple instances where I have, you know, said, this is where I'm at, I've done the work I've done the mindset work and now I'd like to do some more clearing and like almost like quantum leap to another level. Yeah, and I think we're Yeah, heard a lot of times we we assume that it's like well, I you know, I already do this work I don't need anything besides this, you know, like, but I would say you know, for for coaches for for people who are like have already done the work. This expedites the process, and this actually takes it to another level things that you've said to me before. Are it's easier to clear, and it's easier to do the work with you, Andrea, because you're already doing the work.

24:51
Yes, yes. I love working with people who have already started down the path as I call it. Clearing Being having those awarenesses it? Absolutely. This, like you said just changes. It's a game changer, it changes the game because it allows you to take your processing to another level.

25:13
Yeah, that's yeah, it's the integration piece of it that, you know, because a lot of times when I'm, I've come to you I already have the answer, like, I already know what, but I feel like there's something that needs to be integrated energetically, that is maybe not actually manifested yet. And that's a great place. So I just encourage people who are even doing this work, and have gotten to a place where like, yeah, this resonates with me, but I do this work. This is a great add to the work you're currently doing to what you've already done in your in your own self development, professional development, to actually move you forward, whether it be relationally, you know, for your life personally, whether it be something that you're working on yourself, so that he will help you with your business, because I think no matter how you look at it, it's going to outwork within your business. So it's going to make a big difference. And to that end, when we do that, we are able to really help our clients. And it gives us an avenue to help them and impact them even more. That's right. So

26:29
and as the old adage goes, you can't pour from from an empty cup, and particularly for coaches, your self care practice, your healing journey is critical to you being able to show up and that's actually how you and I ended up working together because you want it to be able to serve at a higher level. And clear that last little bit of debris, energetic debris that was you can feel it, but you couldn't identify it and you knew that it just needed like a little nudge, a little energetic nudge to be able to fully step into that best version of Andrea. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And this is the thing about energy work. You are working at, again, the energetic body, so working with the chakras, but it's my knowingness and my understanding of the chakra system that helps integrate those energies into your physical body. So our chakra system has a direct impact on our physical body and our mental bodies. So more emotional, mental and physical. And when we haven't done the energetic clearing or tuneups, there is stickiness in our real lives, our everyday lives either as a coach or in our personal relationship. And it's the best way to move the needle on any situation is to examine the energetic aspect of it. That is the end. It's the quickest way if you if you want to move quickly. And yeah, get on to the next level, that the energy healing aspect of it will get you there quicker and faster than if you were to just work at the cognitive level.

28:35
Oh, for sure. Absolutely. That's actually what I started with with mindset was chakra clearing. That's kind of what got me into this field. Like it was it was through my, my natural health practitioner was introducing me to my chakra system, and I was like, what kind of magic is this? Yeah, I was like, I'm like, Are you a witch? She's like, No, she's like, No, I'm not. And I was, you know, but I can't of course came from a different background. But um, you know, I've since started to understand that it's, you know, the the chakras and clearing that really does, you know, give me that leg up when I am. Especially for someone who works in in their intuitive, you know, this is, I think so. I mean, it's important for everybody, but yeah, you know, for me, I can tell if I'm off, if something's off, I'm like, okay, something needs to move through clear. And like, it kind of feels like an upgrade for me. It's like, you know, upgrading my my software system. You know, getting the glitches out.

29:45
Yeah, exactly what it is. Yeah, that's a great way to describe it. Because you physically feel lighter and brighter. So our like I said, our chakra system is directly tied to our physical body. And so for instance, like the root chakra, which is a spot just below your tailbone is tied to your sense of safety and certainty. And when we've been made to feel unsafe for an extended period of time, however, that shows up, whether it's, you know, through financial lack, or literally safety for our physical well being, whatever that may look like that chakra is now out of balance, and you show up in the world physically, in restriction and in protection, and in lack, so when we show up that way, physically, mentally and emotionally, we're not going to be achieving those things that we are looking to achieve, we're not going to be operating at our highest and brightest. And so that's an example of the root and then it's typically the lower three chakras that are impacting our ways that we're showing up in the physical world, and that are possibly blocking our achievements at a certain point in time, through our working world or our personal world. So the sacral chakra is related to our creativity and our expression of self and our connection and relationships. So again, if there's been some sort of experience that has occurred that resulted in the experience of trauma, you know, our physical body experiences trauma as well, even though we might not register it emotionally, we may feel it physically. So again, impacting the chakras. And so there is a clearing and energetic clearing that happens to those chakras that allows your physical body to align itself to be balanced to be able to integrate, like he said, those energies and body those energies, yeah, you're operating at the brightest light.

32:17
Exactly. The highest wattage. Exactly. And that's, I think, I think it's so important for, you know, expediting the process, I think, when I look back on my coaching journey, and all the things that I have done, you know, there there is self development and personal work that that needs to be done, but you get to a certain point, and it really is important to, you know, be operating at a at a higher level. And I just know, for myself that, you know, feeling clear, energetically clear, has, you know, really shifted things for me. And it makes things faster, making things easier, it makes things burdensome,

33:02
yeah, you have a clarity you have, until clarity when you're doing the energy work that you don't necessarily have otherwise. Or you may have it and then it disappears. And then you have it again, and you think you're just tired, or you you know, haven't eaten properly, or, you know, you attribute it to all these things. When really, it's, you know, your energy field needs to be balanced and cleared out. Yeah, yeah.

33:32
And I know, absolutely, energetically, I'm the type of person who, where I'm like, I can feel the energies of other people. And I'm like, Isn't my energy is their energy? Yeah, who's you know, so I think it's so important to kind of have a space where we can. And as coaches as people who are doing this work, I think so often it feels like, well, I can do this, I can do this myself. And and I think there's a real wisdom behind saying, and being coachable. And being able to say, You know what, I can do this myself, I couldn't figure it out myself and I could get there. It's gonna take me longer if I do. Yeah. Or I can, you know, go to someone who's that's their gift, like yourself and say, Help me, help me, help me help me with

34:27
self care as a coach is a really big piece of the puzzle to being able to sustain and maintain a certain level of consistency. So being able to show up for your clients requires you to look after yourself in a way that you wouldn't have necessarily considered and I also just want to touch back on the energetics of being a coach you are you are or you are in other people's energy field. So whether you're doing energy work or not, just by the very virtue of the fact that you are engaging with another person on on a very personal level, you are your energies are getting tangled up into each other. Yeah. So because we are all energy, everything is energy you are your energies are interacting with each other. And so if you're not incorporating some some sort of self care around energy clearing, there is going to be a build up. And that's going to cause physical symptoms. Like I said, you're going to feel tired and not know why even if you've had like a great sleep, or you try to get more sleep, and you still feel tired. These are things that happen over time when you're working with other humans and not clearing yourself. So yeah, I've coaching. And I also say this to like massage therapists, anybody who's working with other humans, you're interacting with their energy. And if there's not an awareness around that, then what tends to happen is like I said, there's this built up, you get this residual or residue that starts to accumulate, and it's not yours. Like you don't know that.

36:38
You know, so funny just brought this up to me, I used to have a student voice student who'd come into a lesson. And she always bringing this crazy energy into the session. Not good. Like, yeah, you should walk in it was chaotic. Oh, yeah. And I told her one day, I was like, you needed to stop bringing that energy in here. And she said, What do you mean? And, and this is before I was doing the work? Mm hmm. So I was, but I would sense it. I was like, I don't want it. Yeah. And so now I understand how important it is to like, after every session to clear that energy myself. And to get in a place where I'm like, I ground by, they're actually doing like a releasing of it. Or I play music or I go outside or I do something that you know, physically release the energy. Yeah, back when I didn't understand. I was like, wondering, why am I getting so worked up over all of these things? never really been able to come down. It almost felt like I was constantly vibrating. Yeah. And now I understand you were. And I was like, and I was like, saying it, you know, it's It's you It's you. But really, I didn't know how to handle it. That's right. So now

37:51
it is always about us. Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. And so these are the conversations that I have. I talk about how energy impacts our physical world. And one of the things I like to say one of my talking points is I like to normalize the whoo or normalize spirituality, because it does impact our everyday lives. And we when we're not aware of it, it shows up in funky ways.

38:22
Yeah. It really, truly does. And now, now that I have learned how to navigate it myself, it really has made a huge difference. Because I'm showing up differently. I'm holding space differently. I'm not carrying what my clients are going through into my day with me anymore. I'm able to release it. I noticed even like in personal relationships, you know, it's easier for me to release things there. Because I know it's like, oh, this is not necessarily about me. And I now don't have

38:57
to carry it. So well back to that clarity it gives you when you start minding your energy and doing some energy work. It gives you that sense of clarity that you don't otherwise have and you're able to discern what's yours and what other people's and you don't take things so personally and you're able to like you said clear clients energy as well. You're not taking it to bed with you were carrying it throughout the day, you know, when we when we're not aware of the distinction between our energy and other people's energy, we carry things around mentally and emotionally. We think about you know, renew, ruminate on the problem that had been discussed in the coaching session, or we feel like a sense of helplessness, possibly like we should be doing more we want to do more to help them and that all disappears when you start minding your energy and By paying attention to it, working with it, clearing it and supporting yourself energetically, you just show up in all aspects of your life much more fully and completely. And that clarity, that's the biggest piece, I think that I have found two is that peace, ease and clarity has been like, over the last three years since I've been doing this work. It has been the biggest asset and especially given everything we've gone through the last 24 months. Oh, yeah, having that sense of clarity has been huge for me. And that's, that's the piece I love. Being able to share with my clients is giving them that or not, I'm not giving it to them. But I'm helping guide them to get to that space in place where things finally make sense. And they're super crystal clear. And you are able to have answers for yourself. You make decisions choices easier. And you experience other people more easily.

41:07
Yeah, it's beautiful. It's beautiful work. Yeah. So how do people connect with you? Like how do they

41:13
Oh, okay. So illuminated joy is the business name. So I am located on the web at illuminated joy.com. I hang out mostly on Instagram. Ad eliminated joy, all one word, lowercase letters, Facebook as well. Illuminated joy, capital I capital J two separate words. places you can find me

41:44
in the search bar. Yeah, yeah. I'll make sure to link you link you up as well here. But thanks for hanging out with me and having a conversation. For doing this work. It is such an incredible and powerful work and so, so grateful that you're in this space, and that you're helping others with

42:03
it. So thank you. It's my honor. And it's my privilege. And I truly mean that when I say that, I feel blessed. And I feel so grateful that this work came into my world and that I get to share it with others now. And I'm very grateful that my life took the path that it did so that I could arrive in this space in place today.

42:27
Well, thank you, Sara. Thank you, Andrea. Wow, I just love having conversations with people who are going to continually help me in my journey of expansion. And I trust that this also helped you today as well. I really want to encourage you to connect with Sarah, this is something that has really helped me by doing these energetic sessions. And one thing that I want to reiterate is that there are often times where we've done the inner work, we've done the inner healing, we've done the mindset work, we've gone to therapy, but there are just little things energetically that just remain. And being able to go through this and to clear those chakras and that energy. quantum leaps you to the next level. And so if you're ready to go to the next level, I really encourage you to reach out to Sarah, I will put all of her information in the show notes, and you can be able to connect with her there. And I'm just so glad that you joined us today that you are hanging out with us. You know I love connecting with you. So make sure you connect with me over on Instagram, and also jump into my brand new Facebook group all those links are in the show notes. Until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live briefly.

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208 | How To Use Human Design To Communicate Your Messaging

WITH RACHAEL WEAVER

 
 
 
We hear all the time that gurus are telling you to do this, this, and this, and you can copy what they do verbatim but not get the same result as them. Why? Because your energy isn’t in alignment at that moment, when you’re doing those actions, there’s like a head and heart coherence that needs to happen. where your head is on board, your heart is on board your desires, and you’re actually moving towards something that you truly desire.
— Rachael Weaver
 

About This Episode:

Do you ever feel like your messaging just isn’t landing with your ideal customer?

And you’re wondering if only I could figure out exactly what I want to say. Today on the podcast I’m talking with Rachael Weaver who is a genius when it comes to copy and Human Design. And this is the episode we all need to hear in order for us to truly stand in our authority and market our words with ease.

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Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

 

Andrea Crisp 0:00
Do you ever feel like your messaging just isn't landing with your ideal customer, and you're wondering if only I could figure out what I truly want to say. Today on the podcast, I'm talking with Rachel Weaver who is a genius when it comes to copy, and human design. And this is the episode that we all need to hear. In order for us to truly stand in our authority, and market our words with ease.

Kate 0:32
You're listening to The Couragecast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely. Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose with a blend of practical and spiritual advice will help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and confidence coach, author, and your secret weapon.

Andrea Crisp 0:58
Hello, friends, welcome to the courage cast, I am so glad that you are here with me today. And I've got a really incredible episode for you. We're going to be talking with Rachel Weaver today all about how to write copy from our human design. And this is something that I have only recently been introduced to and honestly, totally blowing my mind, totally blowing my mind. And Rachel really helps us to understand the different parts of human design, as well as how we can use it within our marketing, specifically when it comes to what we're writing, and how we're putting our words out into the world. And so you are going to absolutely get so much from this conversation. So without further ado, here's my conversation with Rachel Weaver. Rachel, thank you for joining me on the courage cast. I am so glad to be chatting with you today. Thanks. I can't wait for people to get to know you. Honestly. Thank you for being here.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited for conversation.

Hello. I just love talking sowell, then you're in the right.

Yes.I like listening.

You know, it's it's funny. The listeners may not know this, but unless unless they've like watched my stories or even read some of my posts in Instagram. But we tried to record this episode about a week ago. And right in the middle of the episode, we probably like 30 minutes into the conversation. I had this like overwhelming sense to stop the podcast recording. And and I asked you if that would be okay with you. And you graciously said yes. And I was really overwhelmed. It was me. It was all me. Yeah. And I've never done that before. And I just want to thank you for coming back. Even though you're rudely interrupted the first not really at all, um, it was it? Honestly, I could feel that there was a difference in your voice when the first time we had talked the week before that. So I'm glad that you said something. And I will never ever, like go against someone's intuition. If their intuition is telling them something, then oh my gosh, like by all means, listen, let's read. Let's come back to this. revisit it later. Yeah, yeah. And I wanted to bring that up, because I think it's important to our conversation today. Because you are all about human design, you do copy and writing for people, and also just helping them understand a little bit more about how they can communicate through human design, knowing their own human design, and I'm sure we'll get to that.

But a lot of that does revolve around energy. And, you know, the energy that we're in. And I had, previously to our conversation had, you know, launched the 200th episode of the podcast, and then two days later, put out an additional episode, which I never do. I never launched two episodes in a week. And I was really, really exhausted. My energy was very drained. I was coming from a place that felt very depleted. Yeah. And I know when you're working with people, you probably talk a lot about the energy that they're in. Why is it important that people are in the right energy for them, when they are doing things in their business in life? I think the start Yeah, it's a great place to start. I think when you have two people doing the same actions, and they don't get the same results, right? We hear all the time like gurus are telling you do this, this and this and you can copy what they do verbatim but not get the same result as them. Why?

Because your energy isisn't in alignment in that moment, when you're doing those actions, there's like a head and heart coherence that needs to happen. where your head is on board, your heart is on board your desires, and you're actually moving towards something that you truly desire. Not just like ego, one ego, want, desire, but what you truly, truly desire. And I think we get lost in that. But yeah, really understanding.

Rachael Weaver 5:26
I think the hardest part is understanding and knowing what energy you're in, in the moment, because it isn't always blatantly obvious, like, sometimes it is when you're just crabby, right? Or you're just happy and excited, right? Like, those are the easy ones. But there's subtler differences, too, when you're just doing your thing, you're just in your business working on things. And you don't necessarily realize the undertone of your energy, and what you're putting out there. It could be an undertone of frustration that like you're been writing these things, and nobody's really posting, but you got to post anyway, like, you really have to be cognizant and aware of what's going on in your head. Because that'll give you an idea of what your energy is doing.

Andrea Crisp 6:10
So if somebody you know, like, we're talking about that, you know, that, you know, feeling maybe emotion that somebody might feel when they are about to put something out into the world, like, you know, could be social media posts could be a podcast episode.

What What should someone look for when they are about to do that? Yeah. Are there things that they can just even like? Start a starting point? Yeah, I think the starting point is, what is your intention with posting? What is your intention? That's really right. It's really,what is your intention? Or is your intention just to post because you feel like you need to post something? That's not going to be the best energy is your intention? Because you are wanting to share what your offer is? Okay. Are you excited to share it? Or do you feel like, oh, I don't have any clients lined up, I need to go post something, because I need to get some clients booking. Right? Like, what is the intention behind the post? From the get go? Yeah. So there's a lot of, you know, people who are, you know, at the beginning stages of their business who maybe don't, like you said, have a client that's lined up. And I think that they, that's when you get into that spinning cycle of like, you know, I don't have anybody coming. So what do you usually suggest to somebody who's in that position where maybe they're starting out, and they're not seeing people engage right away? And yeah, what would you say to that? Well, it's honestly, it's like anybody that pivots in their business, or they change the message, you kind of, it takes a certain amount of time for people to catch up with you and realize what you're doing. So you can feel like you're talking incessantly about something you are. So in your business, your the energy is intense that you're like, I this is what I'm offering that right, you're, it's feels big to you, but what you're actually putting out there is only like one or two posts here or there. And not everybody sees it, because algorithms and whatever. So what you're actually putting out there doesn't match what you think you're putting out there. Does that make sense? Like, yeah, and so in the beginning, yeah, you got to talk incessantly about what you do. And when you pivot, and you change your message a little bit, I'm famous for this, I changed my message, I pivoted, I think, like three or four times in the last two years.

Rachael Weaver 8:34
And it, you have to take a step back and really lay the foundation again and tell people what you're doing. And it takes them a few weeks to catch up with you incessantly talking about it. And then they're like, oh, okay, then you can back off a little bit, then you have like, what you call, like, you're known for something specific, right? But you have to talk about it all the time in the beginning, the first little bit, right? And in the energy of like, I'm just really excited to share that I can do this for you that I can help you with this. Now, is there ever a time that somebody can share out of maybe a little bit of frustration or angst, and have it be a good thing?

Um, I'm sure there is. But I think ultimately, the, the outcome you want is not in that energy. You write like, you can get people contacting you off of posts that you wrote when you were frustrated. But are those your ideal clients?

Maybe not, maybe they're people that maybe you were stuck in the pain of frustration, right? So you put this post out there, and then the people you get coming to you from that post are second frustration themselves and can't figure out how to get out. And okay, yes, wehelp people through their frustration.

But there's a difference between people that are ready to hear what you have to say and ready to, to work on that frustration and get out of it, right? versus people that are just stuck in a story and can't get out of it no matter what you say. Right. Okay, so So I guess what I, what I'm understanding or hearing you say is like, if you're frustrated with something and you want to talk about that topic, then it's probably a good, like, you know, take, you know, take that topic and kind of put it to the side for a little bit until your frustration eases and then talk about it from a place that you're in a better energy. Yeah, that would bring a better result, a better result that, you know, then just out of frustration, is that yeah, and I think it still comes back to the intention of why do you feel like you need to say this? What is the intent behind saying this? Yeah. And if so, yeah.

Yeah, there's like, for example, I just know, the like, lately, there's one particular person I follow, I will obviously not tell who this person is. She's the coach, she makes a lot of money. And she's been not well, and she talks about that a lot on her Instagram. And, and then she's selling as she's talking about it. You know, I haven't I haven't been well, and I'm selling and selling. And like, for some reason, I at the beginning, when I first started following her, I was finding a lot of value out of what she had to offer. And then the more she was talking to me about not feeling well. I tuned out. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, Oh, I don't know that I really want to work with you. Yeah. Is that kind of what you're talking about? I mean, he had it.

You can't go off of what other people do, because number one, we may not be the best client for them. We may not be what the type of person they're trying to reach, right?

Maybe we are. And but you have to kind of look at what other people are doing and discern like, does this sit well with me? Do I? Do I? Am I attracted to this? Or am I not in my pulled away from it? Right? And just trust your own judgment of the energy in in a way that it's they do whatever they want to do? And that's fine, right? Like there's no judgment or shame on what they do. It's just that doesn't resonate with me. But what does resonate with me? How do I want my people to feel when they're reading my stuff? What is the intent behind me helping them? Right? If there's an intent of like, I need to make money?

Andrea Crisp 12:48
Yeah, so somebody is not necessarily going to write that. But that comes through. Yes, the intent of needing to make money that neediness comes through. Yeah. And how does that come through? Like Wait, like, wait, I'm so curious. I think it's more than just feeling I think people don't give enough credit to how they feel. So somebody may read a post, okay. So say I write a post them like, I really need to make some money. Like, I'm like, things are getting really serious around here, we got some bills to pay, but you know, I'm really worried about him, right? So I'm going to put up these posts, I got it, I, I can sell this program, I know I can, I'm going to put it out there. And if your intention and thought is I need to make money, it gives it a desperate energy in the post. So not you could have it literally could say the exact same thing, but with a different intent and different energy behind it, and it will reveal different results. That's what we're talking about.

Okay, so that's why it's important to do the work the inner work. Yeah, yeah. Because you can, you can literally say the same thing, but it has a different energy behind it, and it will attract different people. And I think when your intent is to truly help people and to truly just give your service, then I feel like the universe lines up behind you and was like, Alright, let's do this. And it'll help you with the algorithm like they're getting it out and in front of the people that need to see it, it the universe will help you and support you in doing that. But if your intent is more scarcity, and I need to make money and I need to make this business work, then the universe is behind that too. But it's going to deliver it to people that are in that same frame of mind, and those are not the best clients to have. Those are the refund seekers. Yeah, I have two two friends that come to mind that are both amazing and both that operate at a very different energy frequencies like in the sense of like, how their personality comes across. And one is very calm and very peaceful and the other one's a little bit more like you know, hard hitting you

You know, doesn't take any, you know, shit off anybody? Yeah. And I'm equally drawn to them. Yeah. For what they do. One does completely different thing than the other person. Yeah.

But it's so interesting because, you know, like, it's not about the personality, right? Like, it's not about your personality, it's about the energy. Exactly. Yeah, you can be soft spoken and introverted. And just softer, right? Like, you're not that bold in your face kind of person with beautiful energy behind you with an intent of just to share your gifts, and you will be just as successful as somebody that is bold in your face doesn't take shit. And if long is their intent is again just to serve what they're what they their gifts are. And yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter what your personality is the

Rachael Weaver 15:52
Your personality is amplified by the energy behind it.

Andrea Crisp 15:56
Oh, that's good. Wow, that's good. Your personality is amplified by the energy behind it. Yeah, that's really good. Yeah. Oh, my gosh, okay, that's really good.

I'm thinking about, you know, just even, you know, the past, how maybe I operated or shared my, my voice or my story. And for many, many years, probably was afraid to be who I truly was. And I think there are these sides of me, that I feel are more approachable. Yeah. So it's like, it's easy to put out the side of you, that feels approachable. And then the side of you that is a little bit like, more intense, I would say.

So the side of me that was more intense. I wanted to kind of like, rein that in, because I was so afraid of that intensity being off putting that I only allowed my, the part of my personality that is going to be like approachable. Yeah. And spent a lot and but now that I'm thinking about that, and it's like, I never really allowed the intense part of me come through with the right intention.

Yes, held it back. Yeah. So I just stopped it completely. So never really being as truly authentic as I could. Because, yeah, I thought, Oh, that is going to put people off me. When really, if my intention is in integrity. I hear you saying, Yeah, then it's going to attract the people who need to hear it anyways, because it's not necessarily how I'm saying it. It's about the intention and the energy that's behind why I'm saying yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We all have like multiple voices within us. I myself, like I played a lot when I had a photography business. I was either like really sassy, and kind of cocky, almost to being very flowery, flowery and poetic. And, like two very different.

And it's so funny, because I can see both out of Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like, this is what my clients see in this. This is what my friend group sees. Mm hmm. Yeah. And, and, and like, could you marry the two? Yeah, like, can you marry the two in business, you can marry the two. And again, it comes always back to intention for me the sassy, cocky one came out when I was feeling scared. And not in control. That's when the sassy girl came out. The flower girl came in when she was like, Yeah, that's good. It's like peace, love from the 70s. Like, yeah.

Rachael Weaver 18:50
Um, yeah. So it was, it was how I was feeling the mood that I was in depended on the voice that came out. So I had a lot of work to do to figure out like, what?

What was going on there? Um, but mostly, yeah, you can bring the two together, and understand that they're all part of you. And they get to have a voice. But you get to decide like, ultimately, in what energy am I going to deliver this voice? Mm hmm. Today, I was working on launch plan for one of the groups that I'm gonna offer in the spring. And I was trying to make a decision between launching it soon. Or a month later, like 30 days later, it was either going to be now or later.

Andrea Crisp 19:43
And I had a video of kind of a launch strategy that I was going to rewatch and it's really good. But as I was watching it, and I was writing things down, and I was like, thinking to myself, this is really, really but it doesn't feel like it's where I'm at. So I turned the video off, and it turned some music on. And I just started to sit there and I'm like, Okay, I'm going to tune into my own intuition here. Like, what is my intuition telling me? Yeah. You know, do I need to launch it now? Do I need to launch it? Right. I guess the question is right now. Yeah, like not Yeah, you know? And

I was like, No, yeah, I don't. Yeah. I mean, financially, yes. You're like, obviously, like, the sooner the better, you launch something, right? They take messy action. But in the same way, I was like, No, that doesn't feel in integrity with where I'm at. And what what I want to put out, I want to put out something that feels really aligned. And, and so as I was doing that, I was like, I stopped doing the planning process, and I just kind of decided to dial it back and like, go and clean, do some other things. And just allow myself to settle a bit so that I could get the download of what it was that needed to come through. Yeah.

When you're doing, you know, launching or any kind of sales pages or anything, like how, how do you want to be when you're in that process? for myself or for clients? Either or who, um, for myself, and I know, what I've really learned this last year is that there is a dance between taking messy action and listening to your intuition, right? And it comes back to are you willing to step fully into yourself and who you're becoming? Because every time that I've held back, or I felt like no, now's not the good time, is because I wasn't ready to step into fully who I am. And for whatever reason, right, like you.

Rachael Weaver 22:11
And you can unpack that. And now that I see that, when I come to a spot where I'm like, Well, why don't I want to do this? Like, why do I need to hold back? And it's usually because like, No, I'm, I'm holding my own self back. Because I'm not ready to step into who I am. And then then it's asking, Well, what do I need to step into this? What do I need to feel supported? And then I can step into this. And then usually everything kind of the dominoes all fall into place.

For clients, it's really sussing out understanding, where are they at right now? With their message? Where do they want to go? And why are they not stepping into it right now? What's holding them back? What's scaring them, and giving them anxiety, that if they step into that full version that they know is there, right? It's almost like you're on the end of a dock. And life, as usual, is behind you. And you can see a glimmer of what's possible out there in the water, but it's fogged over. And you have you can put one foot in the boat and one foot on the dock and it's super wobbly. You're like wobbling back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, right? And the fog is kind of there. But then it clears and comes back and you're just in this like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth energy. But the second you commit and jump in that boat, the boat settles, and you can sail out and the fog clears. Right.

So it's understanding. Are you on that dock right now? Or you're just Yeah, I can't.I'm scared. Yeah. Oh, are you? Are you legitimately waiting for a download? I think honestly, the universe will give you a download the second you are ready for it. So if the download was not there, then what's missing? Like, what are you not stepping into?

Andrea Crisp 24:10
That's good. That's really good advice. When I was I think that I can I can apply that in my own life even just thinking about I have been putting off launching.

But today I was Today felt like the first day that I'm like, No, I feel I feel like I could do that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, like, like you said, I didn't have words for it, like stepping into that version of myself. That embodied that Yeah. Instead of feeling I think before there was a part of me that was like, knew I wasn't there. I was, you know, and so it was like, Okay, I better not do it because no I better not to but that's just how it felt like yeah, that was the the dialogue in my mind, but

Um, now is this different for different types in human design? Like, we haven't really like chatted about that. But yeah, there are different types. Yes know much about human design. Yes. What does that mean? When you're, you're actually working with human design, and you're messaging, both. So when I'm looking at someone's chart, I can tell what's likely to hold them back and make them not want to commit or be scared to commit.

Rachael Weaver 25:29
And that's the openness, the white part of your chart, right. And when we can step more into the defined areas in our chart, those wobbles become less, they become easier to go, Okay, I see what's happening here. But you have to be in your energy, we're the white parts, you are conditioned by the world around you. So if you have an open head and open agina on the two at the top, like you can overthink things all the time you identify, yeah, in then you identify with those thoughts, you're like, well, if I'm thinking this, then I must not be ready, right. And that's not the case at all, it's just your head doesn't have anything, a way to process that information in a consistent way. So it kind of goes haywire until you see what's happening, and then you can rein it in.

And I've also seen where defined areas defined channels to your throat, can be shut down with conditioning as well. So like, if you have a channel from your, the will center to the throat, it's very much I want, this is what I desire. It's very, it's ego, but it's ego from a higher place. But it comes off in our world being very ego driven, like you are very determined to have what you want, right? If you grow up in a household that doesn't allow you to express that, it's like what you want doesn't matter. And you it gets shut down. And then as an adult, they want to talk about what they want, but they can't they just feel like there's just so much there that it's blocked, right? And so it's clearing that channel and understanding that, no, you are meant to talk about this. And you can do it in a way that is fully in alignment with yourself and everyone around you. So it's, it's looking at a person's chart is more than just your type. This is like looking at the nuances of your chart, and understanding how the energy flows through your chart and up and out your throat.

Andrea Crisp 27:41
Okay, which I find fascinating. I have no idea what any of that means.

Although, like, I know, I've downloaded my chart, I even sent my chart to you, I've had another friend look at my chart, and explain a few things to me.

But I just see a lot of like these little things. And I'm like, I don't know what any of this means. You know, but that's why it's important to have somebody who knows how to read it. Yeah, and understand how it all works together to communicate. Yeah, yeah. How is it? What is what is the premise of human design, it's, um, it's pulling different things together. So it's like astrology eaching, the chakra system is pulling all these different things together and creating a system from that. So it's based off of your birth date and time. It's an imprint of how your energy works, both how it interacts with other people, as well as how you communicate with the universe, and how the universe communicates with you.

How Okay, can you say that, again, how you how you communicate with the universe, and how the universe communicates with you. So you communicate to the universe through respond or through your strategy. So that's for manifests, it's initiating, you're communicating thing, and you initiate and go after something. It's communicating to the universe, that this is what you want for generators and manifesting generators is responding. So you're responding to everything. By the way in the world, you're responding to energy, you're responding to people's words, actions. All of it, you're responding in every single moment. So you're using your gut to go yes or no to things. And with that, you're saying yes to this and no to that, and that's telling universe more of what you want. For projectors, it's invitation so you're waiting for an invitation to give your energy to people.

Rachael Weaver 29:43
You don't have to wait to like write a post or anything like that, but you need to wait to give your energy to another person. So to coach someone to help them they need to say hey, I want your help right the invitation.

The reflectors needs to wait 30 days a lunar cycle because they don't have any definition or any defined centers in their chart, which means they need to kind of work through the energy in a cycle of 28 days to really understand what it is. That's correct for them.

Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then, um, theuniverse communicates with you through your authority. So that's the way you make decisions. So the universe can respond or for back to you with like, your intuitive hits. This is where like in splenic, intuitive knowing comes from the sacral gut, yes or no. There's emotional wave, there's G center, and there is head, like, there's multiple ones and different ways for you to tap into that intuition. Depending on who you ask. Okay, so there's ways you're communicating with the universe, which is the first step you talked about ways the universe is communicating with us. That's like the download. Yeah, basically what we're talking about. Yeah. So the universe is communicating with you and how you're receiving that. Yeah, how you're receiving it? Oh, yeah. And how it's going. So every person's a little bit different. Yep. When you say how we are communicating with the universe, Does that just mean?

Andrea Crisp 31:22
Does that mean people to or does that mean? Just like the universe? And I don't know. Does that make sense? Am I I'm late bores people different.

Rachael Weaver 31:37
Like how I would communicate with someone else? Yeah, how I communicate with people? Well, I think I mean, we're all communicating with each other all the time. Right. So like, this is a very sacral conversation. Manifesting generators and generators, respond. So having a conversation back and forth is really helpful because it gives us something to to bounce off of, right? Yeah. Okay. Um, and even projectors, too, because they're looking for an invitation. So somebody that interviews the projector via lots of questions, asking them how they work through things, how do they see things? Right? That is their invitation then to share what they know. I'm a manifester is more, it would be questions like What do you see? And like, what is this?

Allowing them to go where they want to go? And follow their own guidance? Right? Does that make sense? Yes, yes. Okay. That this is very, it can be very complex. Yes, it is complex. But I think when you start to understand how the whole system works together, then you're like, Oh, well, this relates to this. And this relates that, and it's an experiment. Don't take anything that anyone says, especially in social media, in like these little sound bites as gospel. It's not it's your experiment, your experience with this system, right? And how does your intuition talk to you? How do you relate back and forth to it? How does it show up in your life and play with it? That's the whole point. It's an experiment.

Andrea Crisp 33:17
So if there's things that you find are not working for you are ways in which you've been doing things before, and you feel like you're continually coming up against a block, then it's like, okay, well, experiment with a different way. Yeah. Until you sense that that is how what works for you. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I've been finding lately for me. And this is where I think a lot of my where that pressure was coming from, like, just our feeling of overwhelm. Yeah. Was when there were too many voices. And I was listening to too many of them. I would get, I would feel overwhelmed and not confused, maybe, but overwhelmed with the amount of options, even if a lot of the options sounded very similar. Yeah. It was like, Okay, this option, but this way, this option, but this way, I was like, oh, there's too many things. What should I do? And I was neglecting to really tap into my own intuition and go what is right for me? Like I was always externally looking for someone else to have the answer. Yes. Oh my gosh, that's like indicative of being on the end of that dock and having one foot in one foot out, because you're looking for someone to make that decision for you. And say that, okay, it's safe to get in the boat or it's not safe, right? You're in you can't see what's possible or even like where you're need to go because there's, there's so much noise around you. Right.

So, so tapping in and if I if I so what I ended up doing with that, you know, particular scenario is, I was like, Okay, I can't listen to all these voices I have to like, say no, I have to say no, in order to really hear myself. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think I was getting confused, then like, Is this me? Is this them? And then because you know, when we talked having the open head, I would get into the overthinking part of it, which would, then I would do nothing.

So, learning to tap in to myself to my own intuition so that I can take action on that. Or do things in that space? Yeah.

Rachael Weaver 35:45
Even if it seems a bit messy. It does seem a bit messy, to be honest. But yeah, no, there is that. Yeah, like, kind of like, Am I on the right path? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, you got to tap in and it's trusting your own intuition will guide you. And I think this is the biggest piece that we're,

I feel like most people are starting to understand that we have intuition that we need to trust it, right. But we're still a little bit in this ground of, I'm not sure I do trust it with everything, like I trust it in this area of my life, but I don't trust it in this area of my life. And it's, it's another experience for you to go in and trust it in that area of your life, right. And the only way you learn to trust it is by listening to it doing the thing and then going, Oh, it worked.Yeah, we're not listening to it and going shit, it didn't work.

Andrea Crisp 36:43
You know, when I think about that, like in just a very practical sense, just to like, bring it down for people who are like, What the hell are these talking about?

I mean, I'm sure there's probably people who could explain this or listening to this. But there may be somebody who's not. But in a very practical sense, I remember when I used to be a pastor at a church, and I did music. And so for me, it was really interesting that when I would do on a Sunday morning, or whenever I would lead a song service, and I would be doing the music. And I was really in tune with when the pastor would come onstage, and knowing and the verbal nonverbal cues of what was happening. And I was in charge of leading the band, and also leading vocally. So I had to watch the nonverbal cues of whoever, and it was always a different person. Yeah. There's always other things happening. I always had to be listening to the music also, and listening to like, what's happening in the moment where we are even spiritually, yeah. And people would be amazed, and they would talk to me later and say, How do you do that? Like, how are you doing so many things at one time? And feel seamless? Like I never second guessed? Am I doing this? Right? Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, I'd be playing the piano or I'd be doing whatever I was doing. And I'm like, I'm just there's the sense of intuition.

And I never second guessed it. When it comes to stuff in business. I'm second guessing things left, right and center.

And And here, I look at this like place in my life where everything felt really natural. Yeah. And very in tune. It's not like I didn't get things wrong. I got things wrong for sure. Yeah, but but in the same way I guy is it a lot of it is is like you said is like like learning, getting it wrong. Tapping in Yeah. And then knowing that feeling, what it feels like when it when you are in alignment. Yeah. No one can tell you what that feels like. We can kind of tell like we can say from our experience, right? But we can't tell you what your experience is. And I can guarantee you that when you were in doing that musical thing. You were present in the moment you were like zeroed in, there was nothing else on your mind you were present 100% right there in the now. That's when we can tap into our intuition. The second we start over what thinking about the future overwhelmed with the past in our emotions, and when we can talk about the emotional wave for those people that have that as their decision making. But when you are in a ton of emotion, you really hard to hear intuition. It's really hard to be in flow because you're just you're human. You're being an a human having a human experience right now.

Okay, so can we talk about that for just a second. So a lot of things going on past couple of years. Obviously, we all know what they are. Yeah. Just more recently, the war. Yes, Russia and Ukraine. Russia invading Ukraine. Yes. Many, many, many emotions. Yeah. So many things energetically happening. If a person feels influenced by a something happening a crisis in the world? Or is that a place where they maybe need to stop and go, okay, like they need to, like, settle their nervous system and their emotions and make their decision outside of that? Yes, absolutely. Like, okay. We can't make the best decisions for us when we are in fight or flight. And when you are reacting to the world, you're in fight or flight. So we need to process don't stuff things away and say that you're not upset about something when you clearly are, right, that's not healthy either. So I mean, processing emotion, get sad, get mad, go through it. And then once you're calm, then go, Okay, what is there for me to do? What can I change in the moment right now. And that's when you get intuitive hits, that's when you're in truly that's the action that is going to have the most impact is your process, you dealt with it, now you're ready to go, now you're like, let's, let's make something happen. Let's make some change happen.

Rachael Weaver 41:27
And I think people that are, we all experience emotions differently, too. So if you're defined in your solar plexus, then you're experiencing a very consistent wave, it happens very much the same every time, where if you're undefined, you're not experiencing emotions the same at all, you're very much influenced by those around you. And you can be easily overwhelmed with those emotions, you're taking them in and you're amplifying them back. Think of, I see it with my kids, all the time, my son is defined emotionally has a very consistent, like, he gets pissed, he holds on to it for a certain amount of time, and then lets it go and everything's fine. And then 30 minutes later, you'll see my undefined daughter lose her shit. And you're like, why? She took all of his crap that he was going through on herself and was like, I don't know what to do with this, but, and freaks out and loses her mind. Okay, am I undefined? Or my defined? Do you remember how she was going to pull yourself? I'm going to do that. Right?

Andrea Crisp 42:32
That I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Because I've often wondered and talk to people about, like, you know, I always say like, I'm empathic. But that makes that really makes a lot more sense. Because I see in my, some of my family members how, like, they can get upset with something and then move on, like they're done. Right? Like, I may not do anything, and seem fine, but then it is I'm internalizing it like crazy, I think, no, you're defining because we talked about this, you die, I think so let me double check that I think you're defined. Um, but that's not to say that you can't be empathic to other people's emotions at all. Like, I think that's there's some misinformation out there. The word misinformation? No.

Rachael Weaver 43:18
No, you are undefined. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You're a sacral. Yes. Okay. I was thinking someone else. Um, so you're undefined. Yeah, you're taking in the emotions of those around you. It can be environmental to like, you can watch the world have the worst thing happening and taking all that in. And I know that if I sit in that for too long, or read too many stories, like I can't function, it's debilitating, defined or undefined.

I have to be really careful. Like, I can read a story or two, I can pull it in and like but immediately have to go okay. This is not my emotion. I can feel it. But it is not mine. It's, I found it easier. I can do that a lot easier now with world events and not as reactive to world events last two years has given me lots of opportunities to work through that and work this out to work it out. But with people around me, like my husband or my kids, it's a lot harder because they're, you're in it right? It's right there in your reality. And two separate is a lot harder. So my husband is a emotional projector. And we were looking for a house last year. And we would get I would get caught up in this like frenzy of like, oh my gosh, we have to find a house and we're being outbid in this like crazy market that I'm in I had to separate that. And then on top of that, then he would have his own emotional response to all of it and I would feel his emotional response. And every time that I am deeply emotional or in it experiencing either the collective his emotion, whatever. I cannot hear my sacral to save my life. Like it's not there. It's dead in the water there is no Yes or No is just, you're out there like flailing around, you're on your own.

Andrea Crisp 45:18
So, so how did you learn to deal with that? And what did you do to? I processed it? And then yeah, um try to only make decisions when I was not in my emotions and try to go is this truly and really asking? I asked so much for guidance, so much guidance when we're in it in it. Because I didn't I I couldn't with the way the market was how many offers we had in I was just like, just give us the house that we need right now. Just give us the house that we need right now. And I trust that this is all going to work out. And we got an amazing yeah, you know, it's so funny with the with this. You know, what's going on right now currently?

I haven't been watching the news, but I did watch the news for a couple of days. Yeah. So I found there was one particular night I woke up around four in the morning, and I had the most anxiety I've had any years I used to someone anxiety well the night. And I haven't, but I had lots of anxiety. Yeah. And I was questioning everything in my life. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, you name it. I was questioning it. Like, I'm we're gonna we're done. I'm, I'm pulling the plug on every day, like I was like, and I remember I got up, went to the bathroom, got a drink. And I said, Andrea, it's the middle of the night. You're hot. I was hot. Also. You're anxious. You're feeling anxious. You watched the news? Go back to sleep. And tomorrow, sort this out? Yeah. And I, you know, because I realize that a lot of the things that you know, the stressors or overwhelm are things that we find ourselves in, when we take something on energetically, then all of a sudden, we think that we're making every decision out of that place. But I had to recognize, yeah, this is really about something very different. Yeah. That I'm emotionally processing. And I don't want to connect my business or what I'm doing. Yeah, with this, I need to like, and I thought, you know, like, as a like, when I think about who I am out of integrity. I know that I'm the type of person that I do need to know what's going on in the world. I am very compassionate. I do want. I am justice oriented, there are things about me. But in the same way, I can't stay in that space. I have to process through so that I can then continue to do the things that light me up. Yeah. And we're no good to anyone. If we're stuck in anxiety, depression and, and chaos. We're no good to anyone. No, that's so true, right? That we can't affect change. We can't because we can't see beyond our own limited mind. And we have to process the emotion and get present. To be able to trust and know what the right next step is. Yeah. This is so so good. Okay, so to kind of bring it back around. Yeah. We've talked about a lot it was very like, wow, that was the conversation I wasn't expecting.

Love it. You talk to me more and you'll realize that happens more than you think.

No, but I think that it's important for for entrepreneurs, for coaches, creators, anybody that is really sharing their gifts their story with the world to to understand because I think there is there can be a lot of frustration in this way of wondering why am I not attracting what I want? Yeah, in my life. Yeah.

You know, I work a lot with, you know, people on their mindset around what they believe to be true and the stories and the narratives and stuff like that. And but understanding Okay, once you are reframing those and you are kind of putting yourself in a position to you know, have those mindsets reframed, and you're in a place to share what it is that you have to offer the world. Then being in alignment with, you know, what you're putting out there with your copy with your messaging. Yep. How you operate out of your human design is I think, really, really important. Yeah.

So I thank you for, for sharing your wisdom and your knowledge. How can people find you and connect with you? Yeah, so you can my website is Rachel weaver.com and it's I have an extra a in my name ich al

Rachael Weaver 50:00
Oh, yeah. alligned copy Posse is the Facebook group that you can come join, and I am Rachel Weaver on Instagram. Okay, awesome. Thank you so much, Rachael, for for being here for just connecting with me and for sharing so much wisdom today. Thank you so much, Andrea. It's been a pleasure.

Andrea Crisp 50:23
Okay, so I hope you totally took notes. If you didn't, you may want to go back and listen to the episode again, just to hear all of the amazing nuggets that Rachel shared. In fact, that's exactly what I did. After I recorded it. I went back, I took some notes, I thought about what is it that I want to start implementing into my own business, and I would totally encourage you to jump on a call with Rachael, she will do a free assessment with you based on your human design, and it is going to completely blow your mind. So thank you, Rachael, for being on the show today. All of her links will be in the show notes that you can connect with her. And friends. I would love to connect with you as well. So make sure you follow me over on Instagram at at Andrea crisp coach. And if you want to receive some amazing journal prompts meditations directly into your inbox every week, then I want to encourage you to join my community tax list. You can do so by texting the word courage to 647-424-2429. Alright friends, I love you so much. Thanks for hanging out with me today. Until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live bravely.

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205 | Become An Expert Seller By Selling In Alignment With Who You Are

WITH JILLIAN MURPHY

 
 
 
I’m never trying to sell through those platforms. I’m literally getting to know people, I’m nurturing people. When there is a time or a fit that it makes sense for me to offer — I offer it! It needs to feel energetically right!
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Andrea Crisp 0:00
The world needs what you have to offer. But if you're not putting yourself out there, then no one is going to know how you can add value to their life, and how you can help them transform their life or business. Today on the podcast, I'm talking to my own sales mentor, who I affectionately call the sales queen, Jillian Murphy. She has so many nuggets of how we can position ourselves to be of true value to those people we desire to serve.

Kate 0:33
You're listening to The Couragecast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely. Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose with a blend of practical and spiritual advice will help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and competence coach, author, and your secret weapon.

Jillian Murphy 0:58
Hello, friend. Welcome to The Couragecast. My name is Andrea Crisp, and I'm your host. And I'm really excited today to share this conversation with my sales mentor, Jillian Murphy, she has truly show me what it looks like for me to show up in my own business in a way that adds massive value to my own audience, and to really engage in community in a whole new way. And I'm thrilled to be able to share this episode with you because I know that whatever you're doing within your life, whether you have a business that you're just starting, or you have been in business for years, the key principles that she is going to share with you in this episode are going to help you transform how you show up and sell within your business. So here's my conversation with Jillian Murphy. Jillian Murphy. Welcome to The Couragecast I'm so glad that you're up early to chat with me this morning. And I've been really excited to have you as a guest on this show. Sowelcome!

Like ah, thank you so much for having me. We were just joking that I do not get up early for anybody. And I'm so excited for this podcast with you today. So yes, so excited to be here to chat with you. And of course, your audience today.

Andrea Crisp 2:17
Yeah, it's you know, it's so funny, you know, like, there's some things we're like, okay, I guess I'm willing to do for that person. And you and I have become friends. And you're also my coach, which I have found so much value in you. And so I was really excited to share you with my audience, because I know that you've helped me so much. And when it comes to all things sales, you're the queen, that you are definitely the Queen and I have learned so much from you are a straight shooting, like right out of the barrel like you know, you don't you don't mince words. And that's what I love the most about your style, and about sharing what you do and how you can help people. So let's start with that. Thank you tell us a little bit about yourself.

Jillian Murphy 3:05
Yeah, definitely. Thank you. So first of all, I love being your coach. I love being your mentor. I love working with people that I'm energetically excited to work with. So, again, I love working with you. It's the first thing if you're listening to this message or listening to this podcast right now, you should only work with people that light you up. So I'm lit up by Andrea every time I get to work with her. But a little bit about me was I joined a corporate sales 22 years ago, and I did not like sales. I joined it because I needed to get a real job. I was doing all these like silly jobs. And my parents were like, You need to find a real job. So I went into an internship and got a job in sales, and I hated it. And I remember working with these older salesmen, and they felt salesy. They felt gross to me, and I would be on these sales calls. And it just felt gross. And I thought to myself, they're not getting to know these people. They're just going in taking orders being really pushy. So I thought if they would just get to know people, and spend time asking questions about maybe their wife that they see a picture of on the desk, or the son that's playing soccer on, you know, the credenza or something, they actually would probably get better sales. So here I am this 20 year old girl riding around with the salesman and I start to have conversations so it starts slowing down their day. They're getting frustrated, but they start to get more sales, because the relationship starts to build. And then through that, I start working my way up the ranks. I actually become a corporate sales trainer through the company. And I really changed the paradigm of the way that we did sales in our organization. We became much more relationship based selling. And it was interesting because I was the first female salesperson in our company since 1963. And I really changed the way that that company did sales, and it's kind of the way that I sell online now too.

Andrea Crisp 4:55
So when you actually left your corporate position I knew that it wasn't something that you were like, Okay, I'm going to make the decision to just jump online. Tell us about what happened there.

Jillian Murphy 5:06
Yeah. So I lost my corporate job during the pandemic, which a lot of people did. You know, I was in a very high role an executive role in my corporate position. And it wasn't something that I saw coming by any means. But as the pandemic came, financials had to be cut, and that position was eliminated. And I quickly knew that I had to do something, but I had this God given talent, universe, given talent, whatever you believe in, to help people sell. And it was interesting, because call it divine timing. I also had a lot of friends that were coming online in this coaching space that I didn't know anything about. But what I knew, and what I saw was that a lot of my friends were becoming coaches, and they were sliding into what I call, you know, my DMs, they were trying to sell me their network marketing products, and I thought to myself, I could help them, I can help them sell their, their leggings, and everyone's trying to sell me now or their candles, or their self love books, whatever they're trying to do. So I created this Facebook group, where I just started to really invite my friends that I knew who I was, like, Hey, you're now going to try to sell online, let me give you some tips. And it really grew into momentum from there. And that's really where my business was, was birthed out of my Facebook group.

Andrea Crisp 6:16
Interesting, because you had actually people that you were like, Okay, I'm friends with you, I'll give you some tips. So it wasn't like you were like, really passionate about the thing they were selling? No, you're just like, I can help you solve that. So So what did you do? Like, how did you help them in that, in that context? Like, what were you looking for?

Jillian Murphy 6:35
Yeah. So when I first started, I created this Facebook group, and I just invited people that I knew to it and I said, Hey, I'm going to do trainings every day, I'm gonna do five to seven minute trainings on like how you can show up online as an expert in whatever you're selling doesn't matter. If you're selling a book, a candle, leggings, whatever it is. And at the beginning, it was a lot of network marketers, because that's what my friends all kind of shifted to a lot more moms who now needed a second source of income. So it was a lot of network marketers in the beginning. And then from there, the group just really grew, I got a lot of like coaches that started to come into it. And that's really where it grew. So I would just give them tips on like, when someone says no, or you know how to not be creepy, and send a message to someone that you went to high school with, or, you know, please do not copy and paste the same message to every single person, do not bombard your Facebook with, you know, every essential oil that you have, like, nobody really cares, like, tell them why they need this oil. And it was just things again, in my very blunt personality, that nobody was really telling them. And then they started to get sales. So then it was like this momentum that really grew from there. And then in about four months, my Facebook group had about 700 people in it, which was, which was amazing. In four and a half months later, I launched my first program, which was really just teaching people how to sell extremely basic. And I launched my first course, I had 28 people in it, and I was like, Okay, this is like a real thing. This is I could like, this could be a real business. It was like almost a $60,000 launch. I was like, Okay, this is, this is pretty amazing. And from there, it just really kind of grew. But it all began in that Facebook group. And I spent so much time in there, I didn't have a corporate job, I was lucky enough to have a nice severance. So I was like, I was gonna go on this Facebook group and hang out and get to know people. And it took about four and a half months before I sold anything. And I think that was also a huge thing. I didn't have to sell anything right away. So I was able to nurture this audience and really get to know them for for four and a half months before I even sold them anything.

Andrea Crisp 8:38
Yeah, you know, it's interesting to me as I'm like, hearing your story is that you sounded like you had confidence right out of the gate. Like you knew what you could do. But you weren't you were just in this holding this energy of like, yeah, I can help you. I can, you know, serve you. But there was nothing like you weren't looking for something back right away, which I find is really interesting, because a lot of people go in with a completely different mentality, like, oh, my gosh, I need to sell this right away. I need to make money. What happens when someone's focused? Is that versus what you had?

Jillian Murphy 9:18
Yeah, they don't sell. Like the, the, that's the so it's really interesting, because I sell I would say probably 90% of everything that I sell through like Facebook Messenger, Instagram DM, my text marketing. And one of the questions that I get asked all the time is how do you sell so much through those platforms? And my answer is always the same. Because I'm never trying to sell through those platforms. I'm literally just getting to know people. I'm nurturing people. And then when there is a time where there's a fit, that it makes sense for me to offer what I have I offer it, sometimes it's within the first message. Sometimes it's six months down the road. Sometimes it's 18 months later. But when it feels energetically, right, I offer it but I never go in with, Hey, I just met Andrea today, she's a mindset coach, I'm going to send her a message and see if she wants to buy. That's never on my radar. It's like, Hey, I just met Andrew online, it looks like she's pretty rad. I'm going to get to know her. I'm going to hear about her business. I'm going to create a friendship with her. Maybe we can get on a podcast in somewhere down the road. If her and I can collaborate in something, whether it's a podcast and iG live, I support her or she supports me, then we'll get to that when the conversation leads to that. That's the mentality.

Andrea Crisp 10:46
So here's the thing. What I'm hearing from you is like this energetic, you know, alignment, and you obviously, like, feel it. So you you have this, like something happens where you're like, Okay, it's time, because then you're you're acting on it. How do people know? Because I don't know that, that everybody understands, like, what that would feel like to nurture conversation for as long as you do.

Jillian Murphy 11:11
Yeah. So if you're listening to this podcast, if you are a service provider, which you are, if you're an online coach, when there is something that somebody says that a light bulb goes off, that you say, I can help someone with that. Yeah, that is when you say, hey, I can help you with that. Like, it's I mean, we overthink it so much in sales. We think like we have to be scripted. I mean, I was on a webinar last night with and I'll say it with my very good friend Alex Street. I was on a webinar last night, and somebody was asking him a question about how not to be salesy. And I literally in the chat was like, Hey, I would love to help you with this. This is not the right time. But if you ever have questions on sales, like shoot me a message, he's not a sales coach. He's you know, I mean, he he's all things stories. So it's like, it would be a disservice for me to sit on that webinar, who there is someone who needs help in sales, she literally has asked me a question for me to be like, Oh, my gosh, please let me help you. You know, after that, like I literally sent her a message and was like, hey, so great to see you on the webinar, I would love to talk all things sales to you. If and when you want to set up a call, let me know, I'd love to offer some tips. Like it's something as simple as that.

Andrea Crisp 12:34
Okay, so what lights you up about sales? Like, you know, I know you sell different things, you sell your own programs coaching you out, you also do network marketing, like what like sell what lights you up about the actual selling process?

Jillian Murphy 12:50
What lessons about the selling process, the fact that I can help people with the problem that they're in. So whatever you sell, if you're listening to this podcast, make sure that what you sell lights you up, you have to be your first sale. If you are not your first sale, nobody is ever going to buy from you. Like I am lit up about what I sell my coaching, my network marketing products, my social retail products, like everything that I do, like, I'm excited to talk about them. And so often, we're not excited to share what we have, because we're like, I'm not really excited about them. Right? I worked with a woman one time that she was with 17 different network marketing companies. And she couldn't figure out why she wasn't successful. Because none of them lit her up like a firecracker. Yeah, find something that you're so excited about that you want to share it with the world every day.

Andrea Crisp 13:47
Yeah, I love that. Okay, so when we first started working together, it was really interesting. So I met you through fast foundations. Yes. And we were in the same group together the same cohort. And you are not coaching at the time in that group. But you are kind of there and I would watch you and I'd see you kind of like pop in and think you know, but I never really had an opportunity really to sit and chat with you. I mean, I think I did one time. It was very brief. It was like, okay, she's cool. But then I didn't really see you for a while. The thing that really caught me was we had another call at the towards the end of that time, it was literally when we wrapped. And I got on the phone with you. And I said, I asked you a question. And I said, Hey, can you tell me what is the one thing that you would do differently? about the past? You know, two years of your business? Do you remember that question? Did you remember that?

Jillian Murphy 14:46
I don't remember the answer. I remember the question.

Andrea Crisp 14:50
Use you said to me that it was a personal it was a personal question and you answer with a personal answer. And I don't want to disclose it. I think okay, Yeah, basically, he basically said I would I would pay as much attention to my life. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, for sure. And yeah, so that's You said I'd pay as much attention to my life as I did my business. Yes. 100%. And that was the thing that I needed to hear from you. It was really interesting, because I could see what you did. But then it kind of like brought you into this, like, you know, space where I'm like, Oh, she's real. And then that was when I started to, like, get to know you more and see how real you really are. Talk about showing up with that authenticity, like how you show up and how people should be showing up in their business.

Jillian Murphy 15:48
Yes, so it was really interesting because I have a very addictive personality. So when I go in on something, I am laser focused all in. So anything I've ever done in my life, like ran marathons, fitness competitor, lost 70 pounds, whatever it is, I am like, when I go in, I go all in. And I did the same thing with entrepreneurship. So once I started this Facebook group, I was like, I'm in I had my first launch, I was all in, and nothing else mattered. I mean, I, I was in a relationship for five years, I didn't pay attention to it. I just I was served and served and served. And then I looked back 18 months later, and my relationship had fallen apart. You know, my daughter was going through her last year of high school, I missed so many things. My health wasn't as good as it once was, like, there were so many things I didn't pay attention to. And yes, I made an insane amount of money. My first my first 18 months online, it was amazing. But then I looked back, and I was super lonely. My relationship ended up failing, thank God, we are back together now. Because I've come to come to the realization that I did not pay much attention to them. My daughter's relationship is much better now. But I looked back on a lot of things. And I did miss out on that. So now, I'm building my business around my life versus building. I'm building my business around my life, totally different than how I did it the first year, and you know, my business is going to come second to all those things that really matter. And I think when you can connect to your audience, and you can show them those things, it's so much more important. When I talk to my audience about, you know, my anxiety that I'm going through, I actually connect to my audience more. I had a brain injury last year, and I connected to my audience way more talk about getting people in my DMs on a real level. I had more conversations during that six months than I ever had about sales talks. And guess what, a lot of them turned into clients. But it was because I was connecting with them on a human level first. So again, the more that you can show up as who you are as a person, that's actually the magnet that brings people

Andrea Crisp 17:50
to you. Okay, so here's a question about that. Because a lot of people, you know, they can get sucked into kind of staying in that victim story. And I would imagine that when you're talking to somebody in the DMZ, I'm just supposing this, of course, but I'm imagining that if you're talking to somebody in the DMZ, and they're asking you about your health, you know what, you've been going through that at some point in time, you're not you're you are not, you're going to turn it according to turn. Okay, how do you do that? Because I feel like a lot of people would just stay in there in and then like, as you say, in the friendzone. Yeah. So when you're out of the friendzone Yeah, so

Jillian Murphy 18:28
one of the ways that I mean, I always turn it as to like what I've learned. So one of the things that I learned during this was in, even, like, through my anxiety, like, like, someone who has anxiety like, I, I'm not, I how do I say this, like, even when I was like going through, like my brain injury, I'm not a brain injury person. Or like, when I was like, I'm a cancer survivor. I don't say like, I I'm a cancer survivor, like, I don't live in that I live in, like, let me share the story, but I'm not there anymore. Okay, so that's like, one thing that's like, really important to me is like, that's just a part of my life. And I don't live there anymore. So I just I talk about it, but then I like, I move quickly out of it into like, the next thing.

Andrea Crisp 19:14
And how have you been able to do that in your life? Like, you know, when you think about your mindset, and how you've made shifts in your own life, how have you been able to do that?

Jillian Murphy 19:23
Um, I would say, one is probably surrounding myself with people that don't allow me to stay there. I think that is really, really, really important. It probably stems from when I was a child, so I had leukemia as a child twice. So I think a big part of this was that when I had leukemia, a lot of my friends were in like these little like support groups for kids with the with cancer, and they would go to these like cancer groups with other cancer kids. And I remember my parents never put me in these groups, because they didn't want me to be like, that was my identity. Like Like, like, you're like, you're not a cancer kid, you're just going through cancer. And even like, when I went through my brain injury stuff, the last six months, you know, I remember like, there was Facebook groups for people going through it. And there were things and even my parents were like, don't join those things. Because then you are that, like, join the groups that they've been that they had it, and now they're out. So I think it's things like that, that were really, really helpful for me is that I don't identify of like, that's who I am. Like, that's not my identity.

Andrea Crisp 20:33
So interesting. Okay, so here's an interesting thing you love community love, I'm obsessed with it. Yeah, I love community. How has community both impacted you, and also helped you build your business?

Jillian Murphy 20:52
Well, community has helped me just because I have my best friends in community. I mean, I will say I live in Michigan, and I don't have a single like real human friend here. All of my friends are online. And it's interesting, we my best friend lives in Los Angeles. But for the most part, all of my friends are online. So I think that there is something so powerful about having people that you can connect with from all over the world, virtually. So I love community. And that is that is why community on a personal level is so important in I can connect to anyone at any given time, I can go on my Instagram and just find people to be in connection with. So that is so important. Why is community help with my business, because if you don't have people to sell to, you're not going to have people to sell to. And this is what I see so often is that people don't build community first, then they try to build a program, a coaching business, a membership, a course all of these things. And then I go back and ask them, tell me about your community. Tell me about who you're selling to. And then they're like, oh, I don't have the people, you have to build the people. First, you have to build your tribe first. Because then you're always going to have people to go back to, and not just people to go back to sell to, but to ask questions to for market research, for referrals, to for networking, all of those things, it's so important.

Andrea Crisp 22:14
And how much time do you spend, like on that in your own business?

Jillian Murphy 22:17
I spend probably, on average, two to three hours a day nurturing my community?

Andrea Crisp 22:22
Wow, on average, a lot of people would probably outsource that.

Jillian Murphy 22:27
Yeah. And I tried to outsource it. I've hired some amazing companies to do my outsourcing for engagement. And I'll be honest, it's just not me. And I can feel it, I can feel it. When I read the messages, I can feel it when I see the comments. And again, my people are everything. So if they're not connecting authentically, and it's not that they're not doing it on purpose, it's just not me. So if I can do that, and that's the beginning of my process is to connect with people, I want to be the one doing that. I mean, lit like Lindsey Swartz still connects to her audience. Like so if someone at that level is still doing like her own outbound engagement, like, people like you and I, it's so important because your audience can feel it.

Andrea Crisp 23:11
Yeah, you know, it's interesting that you say that, because I think a lot of it is, is if you're not building that relationship with people, then how can you, you know, turn around and be like, oh, yeah, like, you know, cuz they, they think they know you. Yeah, having a podcast. Like I hear that all the time. Even I'll have like, friends, relatives, people who become clients. They'll say, you know, like, oh, yeah, I heard this on the podcast. And I forget that I'm putting things out into the world that people here and they're connecting to and then all of a sudden they're telling me about it. I'm like, Oh, yeah. Like I have to quickly reengage in the fact that they know something about me. Yeah. And if you're not staying, you know, having a touch point with people, then how in the world are you ever going to know? Okay, that person can come in. For example, I told my cousin Darlene. She has the she's the craziest job. I went, I think she told me she's like, the Chief Executive Director of I don't know something or other that is like the craziest title. And she's the only woman and she kind of reminds me of you actually. only woman in her company that does all this and she's been listening to my podcast. And she told me the other day, she slid into my DMs on Facebook, and she's like, Hey, Andrea, you know, we listen to your podcast, talking blah, blah, blah. I listened to on my walks. And it's so funny because you forget that that's happening and people are listening. She said the nicest thing to me. She said, I'm really proud of you. And I was like, you know, and coming from family. Yes. I think that makes even a bigger difference because family sees you like you were and how you grew up and it's really hard to break that mold even If you've been shifting and transforming in your own life, it's hard for to get other people to see you as you are now. And so I told her, I said, Darlene, I'm gonna shout you out. So this is the time Darlene, you got in early. Okay, so Jillian, I want to know, you know, when you think about, you know, moving forward in your own life, I know that you also have a coach, that's really, really important to you. So what does that look like for you, when you're investing into yourself and your business?

Jillian Murphy 25:30
Yeah, so um, for me, I will always have a mentor because I wanted accountability. One, I believe it's like a cheat code, she's going to help me get there quicker, she's going to see the gaps in my business, she's going to help keep me accountable. And for me, I need someone that's going to keep me on track. And you know, you can buy all the books, you can listen to all the podcast, you can download all the freebies, you can even be in all the group coaching programs. But at the end of the day, it's so important to have someone who's actually like in your business. So like, for me, I love one on one coaches, like I've always had a one on one coach, and people ask me all the time, like what is, you know, one of the main reasons why you were so successful. And I say, because I've had one mentor, for the whole time that's been in my business. So that's also been important, because she's seen what has worked, what hasn't worked. She's seen my business throughout the whole year, you know, she's seen, hey, what sells in the summer versus what sells in the winter? Like, it's really, really important. But again, also, how do you like to be mentored? Some people don't like one on one coaching, they like to be in a big group. So again, also know what works for you. Because in this space, you can get you can buy into a lot of things that you think that you need. Ask yourself, like, what do you need? You know, I mean, I see things all the time. And I'm like, I think I need that. And this is where I go back to my coach. And I say like, Raquel, do I need this? And she's like, Absolutely not. You don't need that, like, I can give you that skill. Or I can help source that out. Or my team has that. So it's so important. And again, find out what works for you and what you need. Also, ask yourself, Is this the thing I need for the next step in my business? So you know, like, I'll see something online, I'll scroll someone will pitch me something and I'll say, oh, my gosh, I need that. And then I'll message her Calif, say I think I need this program. And she'll say no, that's step M. And we are at step G. So keep it in the back of our mind. And we'll talk about that in six months. But right now you don't need that we need this. And sometimes, sometimes what we need right now is fun stuff. We're like, Oh, but I want that I want to do that thing. And that's actually like not what we need. And then by not doing the things in the right order. We're actually farther behind. So yeah, I know, always have a one on one coach.

Andrea Crisp 27:49
When I started first working with you is invest foundations, you became my my mentor coach in within the group. And I was in a place where I really wanted to scale like that was like kind of like my intention, like I want to scale. And what we ended up doing for those sessions was really looking at nurturing my audience. And it was the thing that I think I was kind of I don't know, I mean, not that I didn't want to do it, like the non sexy stuff. Yeah, I just was like, Can't we just get to like the good stuff? Like, can we just get to some sales? Yeah. And, and I really look back now, at those months and think, now I can, you know, put something out because I have spent the time building relationships, showing up doing all those things. So how was it? How important is it for people to take time to sell nurture? Like, what what does that look like in someone's business?

Jillian Murphy 28:49
Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't you should be nurturing your audience every single day, and you should be selling every single day. And it's interesting, because I would say probably 95% of the people that come to me to help them with sales, they're not actually ready to sell yet. They've missed all that stuff before. They don't have an audience. They're not doing lead gen. They're not engaging, they don't have a warm audience. Their content is not clear, their messaging is not clear. So those things are still selling. So while we think that selling is the clothes, selling is all of those other things that lead up to it. So there's like a very big difference between selling and closing. So make sure that you're selling every day selling is nurturing your audience. Outbound engagement, lead generation, really clear messaging, content that's converting like getting on podcast, getting your name out there, IG lives, that is all selling the close is towards the end, and you will never close, never close unless you are doing all of those other things first, so that's why it's so important to be doing it. And then the other thing is making sure that your audience knows how to buy from you. That's the other thing. I see people all the time that I work with are getting ready to work with me. And I go to their Instagram, and I'm like, How do I work with you? Oh, yeah, I don't tell people a lot, or, you know, it's halfway down my Instagram page, make sure make sure people know, this is how you can work with me. I mean, if you're listening to this podcast, and you start to follow me, you will see I tell people every day on my Instagram Stories, how you can work with me, because I get new followers every day. So you want to be telling your audience like, Hey, this is how you can work with me. Again, if you believe in what you do, make sure people know how they can work with you.

Andrea Crisp 30:33
And then that's what I've seen from even how you posts and things that you do. Like you're, you're constantly, you know, putting something out every month and saying, Okay, this and, and I think that's the thing, like people are watching for a certain amount of time. And then they're engaging, and they're, you know, jumping in your group, and then all of a sudden, they're like, you post something like, yep, Today's a day. And then boom, there it is. And that's one of the biggest things I've learned from you is to be unapologetic about the fact that I'm not just selling you something, I'm serving you with something. Yeah. And if I am not showing up and saying I can help you, then, you know, I'm doing you a disservice by not telling you that I can actually help you with this. And I think that was I got really in my head about that. And I think a lot of, you know, entrepreneurs, coaches, people that I work with, they get in their heads about how they can show up and share what it is that they do. So what would you say to someone who is in that position right now or that like, they're, they have a gift, they have something that they can give the world whether it's through a business or through their art, what would you tell them is something that they need to actually do or shift in order to move in that direction? Yeah,

Jillian Murphy 31:52
so share it. I mean, it's literally as simple as that, share it with your audience. And if you don't feel competent yet to be like, Hey, this is how you can work with me. Because again, some people don't want to say that maybe share with like, this is the transformation that I provide. Or today on a coaching call with somebody, this is the transformation that we got, or today with one of my one on one clients, this was a breakthrough that we had, like, those are all ways of saying, This is how you can work with me without saying this is how you can work with me. So there's other ways of saying it without saying it. I mean, even today, I've posted two stories on my Instagram that were selling without me saying like, hey, buy from me, I welcome somebody into a new program. So if somebody just came to my Instagram today, they're like, Oh, she has a program. Right? So they're like, what does she have interviewing. And then I shared social proof from a client. So they're like, Oh, she has one on one coaching. So while I wasn't saying, like, Oh, this is how you can work with me, I'm always putting things out that people can work with me. Another way, is making sure that you have different offers. Some people think that like, oh, I can only have one offer at a time, if you walked into a shoe store women, and there was only one pair of shoes, and that wasn't your size, or it wasn't the color or what you needed, you would walk out. So think about your business, like a shoe store, you want to have lots of different things, because you're going to have lots of different buyers. I mean, my product suite starts at $214. And it goes up to $22,000. Why do I have so many different offers? Because I have so many different buyers? Yes, you have so many different buyers that come into your world or my world. So you want to have different things available for them. So that it's not just one option. You know, I see so often that you know, coaches have, you know, I have a $5,000 mastermind, like take it or leave it? Well, if that buyer doesn't want a mastermind, that buyer doesn't want community or that buyer doesn't have $5,000, then you're you're out of luck. But what if you had a $500 One hour session where you could just get to know them, you could be selling a ton of those. And now you're not turning away someone just for that one option. So I see that so often that you need to have multiple things, and again, at different price points, because people are going to come in, you know, I don't care how good you are, how good of a coach you are. You need to have lower ticket things, because there's a barrier of entry that people want just to work with you to start out.

Andrea Crisp 34:28
Yeah, and I think there's that trust factor there. I mean, people talk about it all the time. But it is true. If they don't immediately like, you know, trust you or know you then they have to kind of, you know, like it's dating, you know, I got to have a conversation with her. I have to like listen to her talk on a few masterclasses and show up in her group a couple of times and be like, oh, yeah, like what you saying is true. And I see you know, evidence because all these people are coming back and saying, oh, yeah, like I sold this or I did that. And you know, so To jump immediately from, you know, just hello to like, want to buy my $5,000 mastermind. That's a big jump. Yeah. And I have found myself just in the past little while saying no to so many things, because they immediately wanted to sell me at this big higher price point. And I have to say, that's how I was taught. That's how so many people are taught in this online space? Which is why I think a lot of them are not doing well. Yeah, yeah, we're given they were given bad advice. And your your the the advice that you're giving is running completely contrary to a lot of the things that some of these online marketers are telling you to do. One of the other things that you've said to me, which I think is really important for people to hear is talking about having that one voice in your life. What does that look like when you're in a relationship coaching relationship? Yeah.

Jillian Murphy 36:01
So when you are in the online space, you hear a lot of voices, you hear everyone's voice from social media, you hear everyone's voice, when you're in a mastermind, maybe you have 17 coaches, then you're confused. So I encourage you, you know, whether you're working with Andrea, whether you're working with another coach, whoever it is, pick one person, and that's your voice that you listen to, that's your direction. That's that's the one person so like, for me, it's recall. So I might go to a masterclass, I might have ideas about other things, but I take everything up the chain to her before I do anything, before I buy anything, before I invest in anything, before I do anything, before I create a masterclass anything, because she one at the end of the day is my main mentor. And what I see so often is that people have multiple coaches, you know, I have I have a coach for this, I have a coach for this a coach for this a coach for this. So let's just say you have two coaches, let's and let's just let's just use simple things, let's say you have one coach that works extremely masculine energy. And then you have one coach that works extremely feminine energy, if you're trying to run a business and you have a coaching call with one who has an extremely strategy based, and then you have a coach with the other that's very energy based, you are going to your head is going to be spinning, because one is going to be telling you to go work, get it done, do all these things, and the other one's gonna tell you to go journal, play, run around outside, manifest all these other things, and you're gonna be like, which one do I do, and guess what's gonna happen? Probably nothing. So it's so important to have one person that you lift, listen to doesn't matter which one it is, but find one voice. And also, my, my reasoning for this is to listen to the one person that's already successful in business, quit listening, maybe to like your peers, that maybe don't have a business that you want yet. Maybe don't listen to your peers that are also stuck. Because you're both stuck. Listen to the person who has had the successful business, take the advice in the mentorship

Andrea Crisp 38:03
from them. You're so funny, like I Okay, cuz I, I operate out of a lot of feminine energy. Yeah, but one of the things that I've recognized is that I can swing very easily to the masculine, and then get really stuck in that, and not have a good healthy balance. And so I was actually talking to a friend of mine, and I was telling her I was going to be working with you and, and I was just saying what you know, like, this is, she's, this is what kind of energy she works in. And, and she said to me, she's like, I think that's perfect for you. Because you have so much of the feminine, that you need someone who works in the masculine to actually say, Okay, do this, do this, do this. Because I can get in my head. And I can feel and be intuitive about all sorts of things. And I can feel and know whether it's right or not, but you saying this, this, this keeps me in the Okay, now I can do? Yes. And so I really love how you've explained that. Because then when people are looking for a coach in any capacity, really be aware of like, what is it that you need to complement us where you are because, you know, maybe you do need, you know, a little bit more feminine energy, maybe you do need a little bit more masculine. Maybe you need somebody in the mix, you know,

Jillian Murphy 39:23
even like with your team, you know, even like with your team members, like if you have like a VA, like find someone that maybe is like the opposite of you. Yeah, because again, like it's gonna compliment you like, again, I work in very masculine energy, like I'm a spazzed. Like all the time, if my OBM my VA had the same energy as me, our business would like blow up. She is so the opposite of me. That is such a good compliment. So it's so important that you self identify who you are, where your own gaps are, and then fill it in with your team members, your mentors, your community, your friends, your accountability partners. All of those things. Mm hmm.

Andrea Crisp 40:02
Now one of the big things that I'm really talking a lot about this year is, is really stepping out and owning your power, being who you are, you know, creating that space for yourself in the world to use your gifts and, and the the part of what I do in my business and in you know, with my life personally is, is really all about, you know, creating that space in your life for you to shift those mindsets, those old, those old stories and, and to really move into the space where you're stepping into your power. You're being courageous, and you're taking those steps. And the reason why I love Julian so much and I love having you on here to talk is because that piece of the courage part, even when I'm thinking about the podcast, is all about putting yourself out there. And it's all about that, that connection, creating those relationships. And so I just highly endorse you anybody listening to the podcast today and is like, you know what, I do need to put myself out there, I do need to actually create a community and I want to find somebody who's like, totally no nonsense. I'm just shouting out Jillian, because she's the real deal. And but Jillian, tell us how like, what is like that first step they can take with you. Yeah, to get to know you.

Jillian Murphy 41:20
So the first step is get to know me on Instagram, come over and follow me get to be my internet besties I like to say, you know, come follow me at the Jillian Murphy. I also do a community Sunday event where if you're a coach or your service provider, you're an entrepreneur, come hang out. It's a free networking event. It's every single Sunday, Andrea is always there. So you're in great company. So yeah, I'd love to have you but really, the first step is just come get to know me on Instagram. And let's just become friends there and see where we go from there.

Andrea Crisp 41:49
Awesome. Okay, so this is the question I always like to ask right at the end is what is your next brave step?

Jillian Murphy 41:57
My next brave step would be Hmm. This is probably a good one. So I had a brain injury six months ago. And I have been very afraid to do a lot of things. And I have a trip planned in April. And I have moved it three times because I've been afraid to fly to get on a plane. So I am actually making that trip in April on a plane. So that would probably be my my brave next step that I actually go through with it and actually get on a plane.

Andrea Crisp 42:30
All right, well, we are sending you all the good vibes, all the prayers, all the love. We can't wait to follow you on your journey, you're probably gonna post about it on Instagram, we'll see that you took this brave step. We're standing with you believing you're taking it. Thank you and that it's done. And that you're had an amazing time on your trip already. Julian, thank you so much. Oh, my God,

Jillian Murphy 42:52
thank you so much. You are absolutely the best. I love what you are doing. You're helping so many people. And again, I also edify you because you are the real deal. And people are so lucky to have you in their life. Thank you. Thank you. I'll talk to you soon.

Andrea Crisp 43:06
Okay, friend, that was a power packed conversation. I know that there are so many nuggets that you can take away and start applying within your business, especially when you're adding value to those potential customers in your life. I know for me, I'm going to go back I'm going to listen through the episode, I'm going to take some notes and I'm going to see what I can do personally in my own business to apply these huge nuggets of wisdom. So thank you, Jillian, for hanging out with me. And thank you for hanging out with me as well make sure that you connect both with myself and Jillian. Let her know that you heard her on the courage cast, and I will have all of her links in the show notes for you. Until next time. Remember, you have everything you need to live bravely.

Kate 43:51
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202 | Empowering And Celebrating Women

WITH BRAD WALSH

 
 
 
started reaching out to women on Instagram, and Andrea the response was incredible. It was beautiful, it was amazing — they were so happy to hear that a man had created a platform to help elevate women and amplify their voices.
— Brad Walsh
 

About This Episode:

The concept of self-love and women's empowerment is often overshadowed and cheapened by cheesy cliches and yet it is more important than ever that we raise the voices of this new generation of women. I'm always thrilled when I can partner with a male counterpart who is as passionate about women's empowerment.

This week on the podcast I'm chatting with Brad Walsh the host of Empowerography Podcast,  which is a podcast platform that believes in amplifying the voices of women.

Brad and I chat about the importance of empowering women to own their sensuality and embrace feeling powerful and beautiful body, soul, and spirit. This is such an important topic when it comes to celebrating and empowering women.

Brad Walsh, is the father to two beautiful girls aged 19 and 21, a husband to an amazingly inspiring woman, a photographer, and a podcast host. 

The women along with his Mother and Grandmother are his “WHY”, and inspiration. Brad has had firsthand come to experience the struggles they’ve had with a positive body image. Their journeys inspired him to become a photographer and to create Empowerography Podcast.

Connect With Brad:  Website + Instagram + Boudoir Photography

Connect with Andrea on IG: @andreacrispcoach @the.couragecast

Connect with Andrea via TEXT: Text the word COURAGE to 647-424-2429 CLICK HERE

To book a FREE 30-minute Strategy Call with Andrea: www.andreacrisp.ca/schedule

 
 
 
 

Listen Here:

 
 
 

Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

 

Andrea Crisp 0:00
The concept of self love and women's empowerment is often overshadowed and can be cheapened by cheesy cliches. And yet it's more important than ever that we raise the voices of this new generation of women. And I'm always thrilled when I have an opportunity to partner with a male counterpart, who is just as impassioned, as I am about women's empowerment. And this week on the podcast, I'm chatting with Brad Walsh, the host of Empowerography podcast, which is a podcast platform that believes in amplifying the voices of women. And Brad and I chat about the importance of empowering women to own their sensuality, embrace feeling powerful body, soul, and spirit. And this is such an important topic when it comes to celebrating and empowering women.

Kate 0:44
You're listening to The Couragecast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely. Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose with a blend of practical and spiritual advice will help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and confidence coach, author, and your secret weapon. Hey there, welcome to The Couragecast.

Andrea Crisp 1:11
My name is Andrea crisp, and I'm your host, and I am thrilled that you're joining me today, we've got a great episode lined up for you. But before we get to it, I wanted to invite you to something that I am so thrilled to launch, it's called the mindset mentor circle. It's a free community, where we elevate our mindset so that we can elevate our impact in the world. And, you know, there are often times when we find ourselves in positions where we're overthinking things where we're stuck in those limiting beliefs. And I wanted to create a place a community where we can come together and share maybe what we're struggling with so that we can actually start reframing those mindsets and taking brave steps in our lives. And it's going to be held every Wednesday 12pm Eastern Standard Time, I'm going to put the link in the show notes. And you can connect with me and I will make sure that you get an invitation to our private Zoom Room. My guest today is Brad Walsh, and he is a father a husband. And he was really impacted and influenced by the women in his life, his mother, his grandmother, which is why he is so passionate about empowering women. He is also a boudoir photographer and the podcast host of Empower autography podcast. So without further ado, here is my conversation with Brad Walsh.

Brad, so excited to chat with you on The Couragecast today. Thank you for coming on. I was on your show. Not that long ago and Empowerography. And I am really, really excited to chat with you. So thanks for coming on and hanging out with me. And your thank you so much for the invite to to share a bit about my story and my journey with your plaque on your platform with your audience. I'm honored and really excited to to be here with you today and share a bit about my story and journey. This time. It's a little different being on the other side of the mic.

Brad Walsh 3:08
As you just experienced recently with me, so yeah, it's a little trade off here, I guess. Yeah. It's one of those things where it's like, you get used to doing a certain thing and kind of, you know, a lot being that mirror for other people. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, it's like, okay, I'm stepping out and I'm now being seen. And you know, and it is a little bit different to do this. Yeah, yeah. No, I'm glad. I'm glad. It's exciting. You know, when people you know, take a look at your podcasts that they all see that it is really focused on women, which is obviously why you're on my show. But one of the things that you know, I've seen more in your Facebook group is you're kind of becoming a little bit more visible. And, you know, this kind of like spoiler alert, people are gonna be like, Okay, well, what is this all about? So we're just gonna go there. So just tell us a little about who you are and who you serve.

My name is Brad Walsh. I am the host creator, producer of the Empower agafay podcast, I started the podcast, Jesus, it'll be two years next month, actually.

And it's all centered around and focused on women's empowerment. And a big piece of that came to be, of course, because of COVID. But the inspiration behind it came from and through five women in my life. My daughter's my two daughters who are now 20 and 22. They're a big part of the inspiration for that. And a big part of that piece of the puzzle, or story is because of what my daughters went through when they were younger when they were in elementary school. They were both bullied as kids in elementary school. And, of course, as a parent, seeing your children go through something like that is difficult and it's

It was a really tough time to go through with them. And I mean, you unfortunately can't go in and beat the kids up for take care of them.

That would be a bit of a problem. But seeing what they went through, and how they struggled through that, and the effects that it had on them. And the fact that the effects carried through with them to the different stages of their lives, from elementary school to teenage like high school years, and now their young adult lives, the effects are still there. It's heartbreaking. And it's horrible. I mean, I was as a kid, I was bullied as well. So I have an idea how they feel. But seeing them go through that. It's just, it's heartbreaking. And then thinking about that on a grander scale, the hundreds of millions of young girls and women who go through and deal with that on a daily basis and have it affect how they view themselves. They don't feel confident in who they are. They don't love themselves, they don't love their bodies. It's It's heartbreaking for me. So part of the inspiration for that, for the podcast was because of my daughters, and then my wife, of course. And then my mom and my grandmother, I mean, I was I grew up around women, I was raised by these two women.

My mom left my biological father when I was 10 years old. And back in those days, the women were the ones who stayed home to raise and look after the children while the husband was the one at working, making the money. So looking back on that now, the fact that he ran around on our haven't had an affair, and my mom had just hit that point where it's like, you know what I'm done. I'm not putting up with this anymore. I don't deserve this. And my boys don't deserve it. Either. She decided that she was going to leave. And that's exactly what we did. She'd had enough we, we took the clothes on our back, we left with just the clothes on our back and moved into a one bedroom apartment. My mom had to reintegrate back into the working world after being at work for over 10 years, because she stayed home to raise us. And when she was at work, my grandmother would step in and help look after some raises. So for me, those two women are the foundation for all of it.

I mean, they started this whole thing. And they lead by example, showing me what it is to be strong and courageous and resilient as women by doing what they had to do to get stuff done. And I mean, my mom had no choice, she had to get a job, she had to support her children. So that strength and resilience that those two women, I wouldn't be the man I am today without those two. And then of course, my wife and my daughters, these five women, they I guess it's my way of saying thank you and giving back to women in general, because of what these five women have brought to my life and shown me and taught me and given me. And that's why that's where the podcast idea came from.

Andrea Crisp 7:38
You know, it's interesting, you say that, because I had a mentor when I was a kid, I was nine years old, and Rosanna became my mentor. She was 14. So there's five years between us, right? And she played a huge role in my life. And then from there on, there were many more women who came in my life. Now I have a great mom. So, you know, I already had that piece. But yeah, you know, when I talk to women a lot, you know, of course, we're thinking about, you know, these women in our lives that have mentored us, but I often don't think about the boys. Yeah, who? Yeah, it's the moms Right? Like, you don't think about that. And, and unless you're in a relationship with a man that it's not good. And you think, Oh, my gosh, I wonder what their relationship was like, with their mother, you know, like, yeah, and it's a totally different story, you know, but these women are not just raising girls or raising boys too, who are then in relationship with women who are working alongside women. And if if that shifts, even then that that makes a huge difference in the lives of women and how we work and how we do things in life.

Brad Walsh 8:49
So for sure, it's funny how that gets overlooked, though, you know, really does. And the focus is on young girls and raising these young girls up to be strong and courageous and resilient and, and to not take shit from people. Right, exactly. That's great. But the boys Yeah, they do get overlooked. And I mean, a big part I think, is the societal conditioning for boys, right? Boys are taught growing up, Oh, you shouldn't show your emotions or the you know, if a boys crowd stop, you're crying, you're acting like a little girl and it that needs to shift we need to shift that thinking for our boys too. They need to be shown and taught that you know what, it's okay to show your emotions. It's okay to have emotion. You're a human being, you're going to have emotions, and it's perfectly normal to show those emotions if you feel like crying cry. There's nothing wrong with it.

Andrea Crisp 9:40
Yeah, I totally agree. Because I know you know, for women, like you know, we're girls especially like in our generation, right now growing up for women. It was like you know, there was certain expectations. Yes for us and certain ways for us to be acting. And when I when I showed up in you know, in my life in a work environment. I had a really hard time because I was trying to be feminine and I wasn't sure how to really use my masculine energy. Right. And I think it's, it's the opposite for for men in the sense of like, there's like this full on masculine energy, but there's part of this feminine part of the men. Yeah. That they feel like oh my gosh, if I show any kind of like sensitivity, or you know, inclusion, then I'm not going to be, you know, some man. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's interesting. Like, I mean, I didn't think we were going to talk about this today. But you know, here we are. Yeah. You know, when you when you think about your own journey, and with your, with your daughters, your wife, your mom and your grandmother, how have they informed who you are today?

Brad Walsh 10:54
I think it Well, I mean, it's obviously it's it started with my mom, my grandmother teaching me about respecting women, the back then, of course, at that age respecting girls, and we were always told growing up, you know, be polite, respect your elders, respect, girls, never ever, ever lay hands on a girl. It's just these values that that they instilled in me from a young age to always be respectful and treat everyone with respect and be fair to everyone. And so, I mean, it all started there. And just women are just natural nurturers, so that just because I didn't really have a father around until my mom met a gentleman later on, after she left my biological father, then I had the father figure in there helping me as well. But it was mainly my mom and my grandmother teaching me. And then of course, watching my daughter's grew up and seeing what they went through. Because obviously, times have changed for kids since we were children. And so just trying to instill those values in our girls, that's something that my wife and I always worked on and persisted with the girls is that, you know, don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't do anything, you can accomplish anything, you are limitless, put your mind to it. And don't let anyone stop, you don't let anyone keep you down. Don't let anyone tell. And I think that I don't want to say girls need that more a kids need that I think we need to start doing that with our children from a very young age, so that they grow up, that it's just naturally instilled in them, there's not even a second thought, if you tell someone something enough, whether it be negative or positive, they're going to start to believe it. Yeah. So if we started to do that with our children, at a young age, telling them that, you know, you are an amazing human being you can do anything you want, you are limitless, you, you know, instilling those confidence, that confidence and those values, they'll just grow up not knowing any different.

Andrea Crisp 12:53
And I think even you know, as I'm thinking about, like, I grew up with really supportive parents, but I didn't hear words like that, like I didn't hear, I almost heard things that were just almost a little bit more fear based in the sense of, you know, make sure you get a good job. So you can take care of yourself. It's easy to be like, it's all in like, in they, of course wanted to support me and make sure that I'm okay. Yeah, I saying make sure you do this and this, but not like, you know, take a risk and, you know, go for it and do the thing you want to do. And, and I think that, you know, having that kind of support system, especially for young young people, whether they be male or female, to know that you can do things like right now. The Olympics is are on right. I love Yeah. And and I think about all of those Olympians, and how, you know, they are pushing the boundaries, of sport, of athleticism, of, you know, creativity. And I think if they stopped, you know, to just go I wonder, you know, like, here's the cap, you know, I better not go any further than that. Yeah. Where were they? You know, yeah, where would they be? Yeah. And that's available to everybody. Yeah.

Brad Walsh 14:09
You know, though, I think that I like what you said about when you were growing up to because we're of the same generation. I don't think that our parents thought I think that was just part of the conditioning of that generation. It wasn't because my parents didn't say, oh, you know, you can do anything you want. Don't you don't have to get a secured if you want to start to do it. No, it wasn't like that. It was you got to get a secure job, but they were supportive. It's just I think it's a different time, right? Whereas now I mean, the internet and technology has opened up so much in the world, you you can do anything never I've heard many people say this is the greatest time ever to be alive because you can start a business from home you can work online and and COVID has shown us that as well that you know what, we don't need to stick to those old values and restraints and constraints. We can work from home. The world is shifting. Yeah, absolutely changed. And and I love that you are championing women in that. Brian, tell me a little bit about how you started your photography business.

Andrea Crisp 15:13
I am so fascinated by your photography business and how you took that and then merged it into a podcast.

Brad Walsh 15:23
Well, photography that that I would have to say that's my first love and my first passion. I mean, I started shooting back in high school on black and white film, I'm dating myself here on black and white film learning how to develop images in the darkroom. So, and the funniest thing about all of the the whole photography piece of it is that I never ever wanted to photograph people, I had no interest whatsoever.

I was more into shooting landscapes and architecture and creating my art and, and selling, exhibiting my art at art shows I was doing art shows around Toronto. And so photography has been a huge part of my life forever.

And I, I guess, I mean, I started working in corporate. I worked for an accounting firm for 12 and a half years and about three years, four years into my journey into that my career, I was to put it politely tasked with the responsibility of doing the headshots for the corporate staff. And that's actually where I fell in love with photographing people, I loved having that one on one time where I could connect with individuals, and learn a bit about who they are and what they do, and just have that connection piece with them. And that's really where my love for photographing people started. And then about three or four years following that I was introduced through a mutual friend to a boudoir photographer who was based in Florida. And I fell in love with the genre, I fell in love with the message, the mission and behind boudoir photography, what you can help women accomplish in terms of self confidence and body acceptance and self love and all of that amazingly beautiful stuff. And I ended up mentoring with this woman for six months. And when I was done my mentorship, it was just one of those light bulb moments, I just knew that when I do finally leave corporate, because at that point, I was starting to think, Okay, I've got to get out of this job, I wasn't happy where I was working, I hated going to work every day, all I could think about was photography and starting my business and getting out into the world of entrepreneurship. And I mean, I'll be it it took me another six years before I made that jump and got the courage and the strength up to do it. But I eventually did it. And I delved into the world of boudoir, photography, and women's empowerment, that's where my whole journey into women's empowerment started was through the photography piece of that. And I just loved being able to give back in that way and have that kind of impact on women and on human beings for that matter.

With this genre of photography, I mean, I had women, my goal was to have the women that were coming in as my clients to leave the studio feeling better about themselves than when they got there. And honestly, Andrea, it's like,it's hard to explain, it's honestly, it's, I can only equate it to seeing a caterpillar transform into a butterfly right before your very eyes that the transformation that happens right there that unfolds before you, as a photographer, you can't even put it into words, how incredibly rewarding and inspiring and amazing that feels to be able to be part of that process. And to have these women's lives changed is just phenomenal. And women have come into viewing sessions after their shoot and told me that they can't believe that's them in the photographs. And honestly, there's no bigger or better compliment I could ever be paid as a photographer or as an artist to hear and know that I ever had that kind of impact on another human being and given back in that way. And that's what it's all about for me is having an impact and having these women leave the studio feeling better than when they arrived loving themselves and feeling a little bit more confident they leave with a little bit more of a pep in their step. The studio, it's a great feeling truly, it's amazing.

Andrea Crisp 19:18
You know, it's so funny because like, I just got some photos done back in the fall back when those are changing actually went to Toronto and my friend Margo does my my photos there. Right andI wasn't particularly feeling my best like you know, I had a little bit of COVID weight gain and you know all the things andyou know, got some outfits and did all this stuff and then I went and did the the shoot and of course she sends it to me she sends all the proofs to me and I'm like, wow, like she really does make me look good. You know, like yeah, this moment and, and I've been thinking about for some time about you know this I mean, I'm 47 So, you know, the thought of maybe doing a boudoir photography shoot is like, oh my goodness, like, Is this the time that I would do that? Why did I choose 27? You know, like, but I want to know, behind the, like, what is the shift? Like what is happening for women when they're coming in and doing that, because I know how I felt when I saw the the photographs, but like, you know, I talk with women all the time about, you know, their mindset and confidence and showing up with confidence. But what is that like, kind of physical, visceral thing that's happening when they're coming in and doing that? I think it does. A lot of it goes back to confidence. I mean, I have to say, my process, I do appreciate consultations with my clients.

Brad Walsh 20:54
We talk and an open line of communication is always there between myself and my clients to discuss if they have questions, if they want to know anything between the time of initial contact to when we shoot, I want to keep that line because let's be honest, you're in a very vulnerable abstains only. Right? So I, of course, trust and rapport is of paramount importance when you're choosing a photographer to shoot these, this particular genre of photography. So I think that keeping that open line of communication open is very important. Because I want them to feel comfortable, I want us to have a report already established before we even set foot in the studio, this way to get an idea of who I am what I'm like what I'm about. And so I mean, there's many reasons why women do them celebration. I've had clients that are celebrating birthdays, and you know, or they've lost weight, or, but I do find that I have found that some women are nervous or scared about doing it. And then the self limiting stuff starts to come in, right? Oh, you know, I need to lose five pounds before I do a shoot or I need to lose 10 pounds or let me I gotta I gotta work out for a few months before we get. And I always try to instill into my clients that No, I, I think that we should be celebrating you who you are right now. If you want to do another shoot later on. Great, but why don't we celebrate who you are now embrace that beauty. Embrace your confidence, embrace yourself and just love who you are. And that's a very difficult thing, self love and self worth. And that's all part of the process. Right? So those are all factors that contribute to that.

It's just an incredible thing to witness. I honestly, there aren't enough words to describe how incredible that process is. I mean, some of the shoots I've had clients where they of course they come in, and understandably so they're very nervous and closed off. And I'm just imagining me walking.

Andrea Crisp 22:56
Like, I'd be like laughing and giggling and like, that's, that's what I want it to be. Exactly. It's got to be fun. That's what I try and do too, is keep the atmosphere very fun and laid back and loose and happy. And I mean, I help them choose outfits.

Brad Walsh 23:11
There. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. 100%. Okay, how's it going? That was my other question. Like how the heck do you find what to wear? Or like, um, yeah, I have, I have a guide that I send out to all my my clients that's got suggestions, I create, I have a Pinterest board created with ideas for outfits. But one thing I have to stress too. And I do this with all my potential clients on the Discovery calls that launch boudoir is not necessarily synonymous with lingerie, you don't have to wear lingerie, if you don't feel comfortable in that, that's totally fine. If you want to wear cut off jeans, kind of shorts and a tank top and it to teach. That's fine. It's about whatever makes you feel beautiful, whatever makes you feel sexy, whatever makes you feel empowered. That's what it's about. It's not about lingerie. I mean, let's be honest, 95% of my clients, that's what they want. They want to wear lingerie during the shoot, but it's not a necessity. It is absolutely not a necessity. And I can see the value for like, you know, you know, for women, when I think about like, okay, lingerie, like I'm like, I don't know, that I would want to show I mean, some women have no problem showing photographs online and whatever. I'm like, I don't know, like, that's part of my business. I'm like, do I want to be putting that out there, but I'm like, there's a part of it that I would want to be able to show. So it's it's I'm glad that you say that because I also think that the empowerment comes from owning that part of your sexuality. 100%

Andrea Crisp 24:48
Can you speak to that a little bit? Sure.

Brad Walsh 24:50
Yeah. I mean, again, this is this is part of the whole process beforehand is that again explaining about you not having to wear this or wear that and I tell them

Women to bring as many outfits as possible this way we if we have we have choices so that some say, I will help them choose outfits before we start shooting. Yeah, say Okay, let's try this. And, you know, let's try something. And another thing that I tell my clients too is that I will never ever publish any images without their written consent, of course, yeah. And this another major thing that I tell my clients to is the one of the first questions I asked them is, why are you doing this? Why do you want to do this? Why do you want to do a boudoir shoot? And I've had clients tell me that, well, you know, I'm doing this for my husband or my wife, or whatever the case may be in them. And it could not. I try to enforce that. Okay, that's great that you're doing that for them. But first and foremost, this is about you. It's not about them, it's for you, right, if you want to gift the images to your better half, whether it be husband, wife, whatever the case is, that's great. But first and foremost, let's focus on you. This is a celebration of you, not them. That's it, right. I mean, yeah, that's the most important part is that we get that down and settle that this is for you. Don't worry about them. And honestly, the images are just a byproduct of the shoot. It's really about the experience. That's what it's about is the experience of being photographed and feeling beautiful and feeling empowered and feeling sexy and feeling good about yourself. That's what it's about. You're just a byproduct. I'm signing up. I don't even know.

Like, all right, I signed gladly. No problem. I will gladly do it shoot for you. No problem at all, you know, because I'm thinking about like, even when I did the the shoot with my friend, Margo. Yeah, the more we did it, the more comfortable I became. Yes. And like she's like, show me the camera. She like hey, look at this. Yeah. And and like, oh, like, you know, yes. And that's, that's something that I do constantly, honestly, showing on the back of the camera, because you my client, you're surprised? Yeah, yeah, they're there. And they're wondering, because I know there are photographers who don't do that. Yeah. And I can't even imagine the clients must be thinking, Well, are we getting anything good? Is any of this material usable? And so I'm constantly showing them the back of the camera. And it's funny that you mentioned that, by the end of the shoot, you're feeling this whole freedom. And and that's happened. I don't know how many times where we've gotten to the point, like I said, they walk in, they're very closed and nervous, which understandably so. But by the near the end of the shoot, I'm like, Okay, we're done. I think we've got everything we need. We're wrap, oh, I was just really getting into this, I was really starting to enjoy this. And that's incredible to hear that because that's when you know that they're leaving that studio. With a pep in their step. They're leaving feeling so much better than when they got there. And that's what it's about. I have I feel the visceral, like, response right now. Like, that is how I'm like, okay, yeah. Because as much I, when I started doing mindset, confidence coaching, like, I really do believe, you know, like, if we shift the the stories and the narrative about what we believe to be true about ourselves, and we step into our power, how, you know, we can really impact whomever we are serving, whatever absolutely, that is. But I guess the more I understand body, soul spirit, and realizing how important all the aspects of us are, as women, you know, there is the mind, and there is the soul component, but there's also the body and yeah, and we put a lot of emphasis on okay, what do we eat? And how much are we working out? And, you know, more and more, I'm seeing these coaches, you know, who are pleasure coaches, and doing all these things? And I'm like, and some of it, people can be like, Yeah, I can get on board that and some people are like, Yeah, I don't know, you know, yeah, but I think there's this importance of this element of empowering women are allowed. And that's the whole thing.

Andrea Crisp 29:00
We can be empowered. Yeah, that when we, we empower ourselves. Yes, that is when the shift happens. That's right. And it's like, you know, someone can set the stage for women to be empowered. You can, yeah, you know, you know, host of a podcast, photography I can as a coach, but it's really the shift that she makes, in her mind, in her body in her spirit in every way that empowers her to actually take those those steps. Absolutely. Well, until until the particular person feels it within them. Yeah, it doesn't. And this is something that we struggled with my wife and I with our daughters, after the bullying, I mean, we continually reinforced with with behavior and talk about, you know, we understand how difficult that that period was that you went through, but don't let the word

Unknown Speaker 30:00
Have these people get in here and affect how you view yourself and, and my wife and I talked about this many, many times, we can tell the girls till we're blue in the face, how beautiful we think they are, how perfect they are, it does not matter if they themselves don't feel that within them. It doesn't matter what anybody says not even their parents, it doesn't matter. No. I mean, that's not to say give up and don't keep reinforcing. And don't keep telling them. But it doesn't unless they feel it, it doesn't matter. And that's the same thing with empowered empowerment, if a woman does not feel that,

Unknown Speaker 30:37
it doesn't matter, she has to feel that within herself. And you know, you're talking about your daughters who, you know, are now in their 20s. But, you know, as as older, as the older we get, really, there's so many women who I talked to who are, you know, in relationships or married, and they, they tell me, you know, in, whether it's in a conversation as a friend, or as a client, they're like, you know, in my marriage, things are not going well, I don't feel like you know, I can be myself, I'm, you know, maybe they're, they're, they're really not having that intimacy that they would desire, and they don't feel like how they want to feel. And I think all of that, you know, comes from this understanding of who you are. And if we're relying on someone to tell us, yeah, we are Oh, you are beautiful. Or, you know, it's like, I'm glad that you think that that's great. Yeah. It's it. There's such a difference when, you know, she shows up. And it's like, yeah, I feel it. Yeah, I mean, that's all goes back to self right self work. You have to put in the work, you have to dig deep, and learn to love yourself that everything absolutely everything begins with self. That's, that's the basis for all of it. That's the foundation. Now when you so here you were you're doing photography, and with the podcast, how did that kind of all get started?

Brad Walsh 32:09
Well, the initial start of the podcas came as a result of me, sitting around thinking that I want to do more with this mission of women's empowerment that I'm on because of the photography, I wanted to supplement or add something to it didn't feel like it was enough for me. And so I just, I thought I was thinking about it. I thought about doing a podcast for a while, but I had no idea what the hell I would talk about. And of course, imposter syndrome creeps in is like, well, who the hell am I to have a podcast? Who's gonna want to listen to what I have to say? What do I have a value to offer people? And through more thinking about it. And then I thought I had another one of those light bulb moments where I thought, Why don't I take or spin off what I'm doing with photography, where it's focused on women and focus a podcast solely on women, women who work in the entrepreneurial space of women who work in the corporate world, or women that have a story that they want to share. And so I reached out to about seven or eight friends, my women who are photographers, makeup artists at the time, this was back in 2019. And I explained a little bit about my idea and the platform and what I wanted to do with it and ask them if they would help me get it off the ground by letting me interview them.

They all agreed. So I started my mission I created I did the interviews, I created the content. And I started publishing episodes, I was publishing, I think at the time, it was about one episode every two weeks. So not a lot of content, because I didn't have a lot. But I thought I just want to get started, excuse me. And so I started publishing the episodes. And at that point, I was in my second year, full time at the photography business and the business started to pick up traction. I was getting more bookings and more inquiries. And I thought, You know what I've got to because the business is so new, I have to shift and focus my energy and time and effort into that full time and not be distracted by other things. So I did that and went back to the business. Fast forward to March of 2020. Well, we all know how that played out. That basically rendered my photography business.

I couldn't do anything I couldn't book shoots, and it was inoperable. So I got tired of hearing all the bitching and whining and complaining about what was going on in the world. And I just thought, you know what, I can't I can't get into that I can't go down that dark hole. And why don't I take advantage of this time that every single one of us as humans has been given on this face of the earth and do something good with it do something positive. And so I thought this is the perfect opportunity. I can reignite the podcast and put all of my energy and all my creativity and focus. I mean, I had to do something creative because I couldn't use my creativity to shoot so I thought

I've got to do something else. And so the podcast, just like that, I've got to do this. Now, this is the perfect time. And so I started reaching out to women on Instagram. And Andrea, the response was incredible. It was beautiful. It was amazing women were so happy to hear that a man had created a platform like this to help elevate women, and amplify their voices. And at the time, I thought, you know, there's a ton of women out there with empowerment podcasts. And I think that's great. That's awesome. But there are no men out there doing this. So this is the perfect opportunity for me to carve out my own little niche that I can grow and expand and blow up into the world and share this mission. And that's really how it was born. I guess it was reborn. We'll call it Yeah, no, it's so cool. And, you know, I got to be a guest on it, which is yes. Awesome. Very cool. So I will link in the shownotes. That episode, as well, when that comes out. And you're also doing some some new things, you know, that are kind of like spin off of the podcast. Tell us a little bit about that, too. Yeah. So last year? Well, I mean, my ultimate goal for this platform, I'll start there is to turn this into an in person women's empowerment conference that travels around the world. That's where I see this thing going. That's how big I'm thinking with this platform. And thank you. And so last year started by putting on the first four in pyrography, the first women's empowerment virtual conference. We held it on March 8, to celebrate International Women's Day. Last year, we had 24 women that spoke at the conference. We had sponsors who donated prizes and gifts to give away to the attendees, we gave away prizes leading up to the conference. And it was just an absolutely incredible day. It was a range of emotions, laughter, tears, happiness, it was just amazing. I had women messaging me and emailing me at the end of that week asking me to do it on a quarterly basis. Because they enjoyed the day so much, there was so much energy and inspiration from all of the speakers. And so we thought you don't have to do it again next year. So this year, of course, we're putting on empower. agafay live 2020 to another virtual online women's empowerment conference on March 8. Again, to celebrate International Women's Day, we have 2028 women speaking this year. It's running from 9:30am to 5:30pm. For the last hour of that conference, from 430 to 530. We're doing what we're calling a virtual happy hour, where we are bringing anyone who's left on the conference be at attendee speakers, into the lobby on Zoom, and just a networking session, you can chat with each other and connect with one another.

Tickets are only $20 Canadian, so $16 for our US folks down down beneath us.

And then I started something a few months back the end of last year called the Empowerment Network. And what that is, is virtual networking sessions for women.

We help they're held every third Thursday of the month from 7pm to 8:30pm. Eastern tickets for that are $20. Canadian again, for three sessions, you get to attend three networking sessions. So four and a half hours of networking.

And we have each session kicked off with two women who are part of the network speaking and sharing about who they are and what they do for the first 20 minutes of the session. And then for the last hour and 10 minutes of the session, what we do is we create Breakout Rooms in zoom and we put two women into each room to network with each other for 12 minutes. When they're done. When those rooms are expired, we bring everyone back into the lobby put you back into another room with a different woman to network, you get about between five and seven rounds of networking. So you get to meet five to seven women each session. Oh, yeah, it's been it's been really good. It's been received very well. The women are really enjoying it having a good time. Lots of laughs lots of fun. So it's good. That's amazing. Oh, well, we'll put that in there as well. Because I know, there's so many women who are, you know, just looking for that support that networking that yeah, community. You know, I think we'd all love to have the in life real community by absolute take what will take well we can get we'll get to that step that's coming. Don't worry. We're I want to do masterminds and retreats and in person networking events and things like that. So that'll that'll come down the road as we get clear of all of this that's going on. That's exciting. Why I am so excited that we had an opportunity to meet and you know, to collaborate with one another. And for me to hear your story and your journey. Where can people find you and how can they connect with you? They can find me at Empower agafay podcast on Instagram. Have a website WWW dot Empower agafay podcast calm basically those two places. Then of course we have the podcast the

Empowerography podcast Lounge on Facebook private group for women to interact and connect with one another. We have about 750 members in there and that is Empowerography podcast Lounge on Facebook. Awesome. Well, we'll make sure all that is in the show notes for people to connect with you. Thank you so much. Look forward to like more collaborations. Who knows what's in store for us, Brad? Thank you. Absolutely. Andrea, thank you. So very much. It's been an absolute pleasure, being able to sit down and be on this side of the mic and share my story and journey with you. I thank you and appreciate you for the opportunity. And he's an amazing, thank you.

I love chatting with men who are so passionate about empowering women. I think that it's so important when we are taking baby steps in our own lives, that we have people who come alongside of us and I think of my friend Steven, who has been part of the podcast for so long. He edits, he does all the original music. And he and his wife and his daughter. They're all about empowering women. And I love that he is part of this journey with me. So to all of the men out there who are so passionate about linking arms with us, we say thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now Brad is also hosting a conference that is upcoming, so I'll make sure that I put all the links for that in the show notes so that you can access that conference that is coming up on March 8. And friend make sure that you reach out to me to get the link to the mindset mentor circle that we are starting every Wednesday 12pm Eastern Standard Time. I'd love to connect with you over there and get to know you a little bit better. Friend, thank you for hanging out with me today. Until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live briefly. If you liked this episode of The Courage cast, we'd love to hear from you. Leave us a rating and review and while you're there, hit subscribe so you never miss an episode. Original music and production by Steven Crilly.

201 | Stepping Out of A Financial Culture of Now

WITH VANESSA BOWEN

 
 
 
Because, you know, we talk a lot about our financial identity. And we know you can shift that identity. Yes, ma’am. Right, you can step into this new person, this new way of being, you can allow the past to be the past and not attach that to your future. Because we think of an energy and mindset perspective, holding that shame is using this low vibration, which is blocking that future abundance, blocking you from attracting that money to pay off the debts to achieve your financial goals. So yeah, just have to let it go. Because it’s blocking that future button. It’s for you.
— Vanessa Bowen
 

About This Episode:

Have you ever felt shame about your finances?

So much so that you don't even know what to do first. You're not alone in feeling that way. It's more important than ever if you want to make a bigger impact than you step out of a financial culture of now to start sourcing from the future.

Today on the podcast I'm chatting with Vanessa Bowen all about what we can do to move from feeling shame about our current financial picture to financial freedom.

Vanessa Bowen is a Chartered Professional Accountant (CPA), Master NLP Practioner, and founder of Mint Worthy Co. Inc. With over a decade of experience in corporate finance and public accounting working for international businesses across North America, Vanessa made the decision to pursue her passion for personal finance. As the proud founder of Mint Worthy, established in 2017, Vanessa provides individuals with financial coaching and the resources needed to blaze a path to lifelong financial freedom. Using a holistic approach, she educates them on the fundamentals of personal money management while empowering them to take control of their finances by improving their relationship with money, creating new mindset shifts, and building intentional habits. Vanessa has been featured as a money expert in several leading media outlets and podcasts.

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Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

 

Andrea Crisp 0:00
Do you ever find yourself asking the question? What the heck should I be doing with my finances? Should I be saving? Should I be investing? Should I be getting crypto? Should I? Well, you know, all the shoulds in life. Well today on the podcast, we are going to be talking to money coach Vanessa Bowen, all about how we can shift from a financial culture of now to sourcing from the future.

Kate 0:26
You're listening to The Couragecast a show to equip and empower you to live bravely. Each week, we'll share solo episodes and conversations with amazing people who've been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose. With a blend of practical and spiritual advice will help you take brave steps in your own life. Now, here's your host, mindset and confidence coach, author, and your secret weapon.

Andrea Crisp 0:52
Hey, friends, welcome to The Couragecast. I am so glad that you have joined me today. My name is Andrea Crisp, I am your host. And I'm also a mindset and confidence coach. And I have loved being on this podcast journey with you if you didn't already know this. Last week, we celebrated our 200th episode. And honestly, like sometimes I look back and I think to myself, like, wow, how the heck did I get here? But here we are. And I am so glad. Like, I was thinking to myself, you know, where do we even go from here. But I think I have another 200, at least in me. So I am excited about our journey and how we're going to continue to grow together and really get the clarity, we need to step into the confidence of who we are and take that massive action and those brave steps of courage to gather. So friend, we are talking about one of my very favorite subjects, money. And I was talking to a good friend of mine not long ago about the culture of now. And in case it's something new to you. I think that often we're living in this now mentality, this place where we feel like, you know, I only understand what's right in front of me, I can only deal with what is happening right now. But if we're going to grow, if we're going to make a bigger impact in the world, and if we are going to share our voice with the world, than we need to be able to understand where we're going and how we're going to get there. And our financial picture is a big part of that. So I've invited my good friend and money coach Vanessa Bowen back onto The Couragecastf to talk to us all about how we can shift from a culture of now to a culture of sourcing from the future. Vanessa, I am so thrilled to have you back on The Couragecast repeat guests, I was thinking, you know, as I just finished our 200th episode, we just aired it. And I was looking back and you were in our first 100. And so I'm so excited to have you back and chat all things money. You know, I love talking about money. I've learned so much about money from you. So welcome to the courage cast.

Vanessa Bowen 3:21
Thank you so much my love for having me back. I am so excited to be here.

Andrea Crisp 3:26
You know, we have been through a lot over the past couple years like you and I've had, you know, private conversations around this. And as a coach myself, you know, I talked to a lot of my clients who are concerned about their financial situation. You know, there, there have been times where I'm really concerned about my financial situation. And we're in a climate right now here in Canada that, you know, is really kind of confusing, to be honest, if I'm really just, you know, sharing how I feel about like where we're at. So I was really excited to have you on today to talk about that. Because I'd love to know what you as a money experts and a money Coach, what you are seeing as the Canadian financial climate right now.

Vanessa Bowen 4:14
Yeah, we're definitely seeing a shift, obviously, with the pandemic and all that our world is going through. And it's a very interesting because there was a recent poll that came out and Angus Reid poll that was sponsored by cooperators. And what they were finding in this poll was that after the uncertainty of the last few years, Canadians are really feeling fatigued, but at the same time, they're seeking these immediate results in these quick wins. And a lot of that is being fueled by this social media pressure. This, you know, fear of missing out but from an investing perspective. And what they found inside the poll was that 85% of financial professionals believe that in today's culture of now, Canadians aren't prioritizing their future planning. They're really just focused on what can I do today? How can I make a quick But today, but not thinking about retirement not thinking about their future when it comes to their financial lives, their goals, or any of that,

Andrea Crisp 5:08
you know, I know with having had conversations with you like that is, you know, really where I have, you know, started to understand how important it is for me to be planning for my future. I know my parents, oftentimes, they're, they're a little concerned about my financial future. And I'm probably like, you know, many Canadians were, you know, I'm like, I'm trying to survive. I'm building a business I'm, you know, worried about now, I'm worried about what happens now. Like, so sometimes for me, when I'm thinking about it, I'm like, you know, I'm not concerned about like, can I buy a house even though like, oh, my gosh, like, real estate is crazy right now. But I'm worried about like, you know, am I paying the bills? Can I do what I need to do? Can I decrease my debt? Can I do you know, and so Future Planning has been a bit on the backburner. Although, I'm at a point, you know, I've had these conversations, where I want to be future focused. And but I fall into that category of, you know, the culture of now. So let's, let's, I want to ask you, what, what avenues are young people seeking answers, because I know I come to you, but what avenues are they actually looking for right now?

Vanessa Bowen 6:29
Yeah. And it's, it's funny, because with a lot of like young, young people, young investors, a lot of where they're focusing on is social media, for their friends, and getting those answers from there. And, you know, all of us are making or trying to make these buying decisions during these increasingly turbulent times. But the reality is that we're all inexperienced in some aspect of financial planning. Like we all don't know something about financial planning. And so we're living in this culture where we're also finding people are kind of afraid to show that and showcase that. And actually, inside the poll, and inside the Angus Reid poll sponsored by cooperators, what they found was that no, there's this social pressure among Canadians. 65% of the advisors said that there's this social pressure among Canadians, for Canadians to feel or appear as if they're financially savvy. So all of that is causing us right to like, you know, shoot, show up on social media. Follow, people pretend like we know, you know what that's doing, though, it's hindering people from asking the right questions and seeking the right advice. And this is why, you know, more now than ever, people need to be sitting across from the right people, like a financial professional, like a financial adviser, asking them the questions not turning to social media, or Google or your neighbor next door, but sitting across from someone who is knowledgeable. And that's why no cooperators with the season that they're we're in right now. They're really focused on sitting down with people and meeting people where they're at. And they have this real people first approach to their financial planning to their financial advice and this holistic approach, because that's what we need right now. Like you just talked about it, you know, we're so focused on pay my bills right now paying off my debt right now, that's not realistic. That's us focusing on one aspect, and we have to open our eyes to see the full picture of our financial life

Andrea Crisp 8:25
right now. You know, I feel a lot of pressure personally, I'm a single woman, and I've been through multiple careers and in those careers, like, I wasn't super focused on my, you know, my pension or what my parents like they listen to this are going to be freaking out right now. But I mean, I think a lot of you know, Canadians can relate to this, I'm sure that they, everybody has their own financial picture. But for me, I know that I've been in this place where I'm like, Okay, I know, I need to be thinking about the future. But I'm on social media. I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook, I'm seeing what people are saying. And then I'm like, I get like this fear of like, oh, my gosh, am I missing out on something? So what? What would you say to you know, somebody like myself, who maybe feels the pressure of social media?

Vanessa Bowen 9:18
Yeah, it's a great question. And I know we've all we all feel it. We've all felt it. And it's tough, right? It's very tough, because we don't want to feel like we're missing out on something that could potentially expand our future or our finances. And I think we have to shift and really just really step out of that, that social pressure. And a lot of it is really causing us to feel a little worn down. Feeling us like causing us to feel these, like emotional, almost like this emotional turbulence inside of our financial lives. And this is why we can't do it alone. Like this is why you have to sit down with someone who is knowledgeable and I know it's scary, and it's not my dad. your dad, your dad might know, you know, your dad might be amazing and, and have the knowledge. But yeah, I always see this right like, if your your stomach's hurting, or if you've got a back pain, you don't go to your mechanic, right, you go to your doctor, so you're trying to create this financial life, we have to reduce the shame, we have to reduce the embarrassment of not knowing of, you know, being kind of, in the dark of what to do. And we have to put our finances first and seek the right advice from the right types of professionals.

Andrea Crisp 10:35
You know, I have been thinking a lot about this, because just over the past few months, you know, even year, and it's funny, because I think to myself, and I'm kind of outing myself with this, honestly. But I think about what legacy I want to leave. And and I and I want to be someone who is capable of amassing wealth in my own life. Yes. And giving generously to female funded entrepreneurs, businesses, helping them to grow and increase. And so for me, I have, you know, like I mentioned, really focused on the now but now I'm like, Okay, I have a reason why I want to call in this wealth, right. And so it's really important for me, to to be in that place, and to really plan for my future to plan for what I'm able to give. So there's a lot of confusion, like, I don't know, obviously, what to do. I don't have an RRSP. So, you know, so let's talk about that. Because I'm like, What the heck is and I hear a lot of things, of course, from the American financial market. Yeah. But there's a lot of confusion about RRSPs. And the different directions we can go with planning, or investing for that matter, like so. Let me just ask you, like, which direction do we go? What are we doing here?

Vanessa Bowen 12:04
Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. And it's funny you asked this because inside of the poll that was sponsored by cooperators. 72% of the Canadian advisors actually said that they feel frustrated, because Canadians is just rushing out to this RRSP deadline and contributing when critical areas of their finances are so unintended. And that's the thing, like we have to understand, like the RRSP is just a piece of your financial life, a very important piece. But this is why we have to have this holistic approach and really look at all of your finances. And even inside of the poll, there was one stat which really showed that, you know, people are feeling RRSPs are an investing tool of the past. Like they're not very attractive, but they have a lot of tax benefits. Like they're one of the only things that we can contribute in and actually receive a tax refund, a potential tax refund, depending on your tax bracket, though, determine how much refund you receive. So it's a very important tool for us to use. I think, just as you were saying, you know, we don't really understand a lot of people don't understand how it works. They don't understand what the benefits are. And so we're hearing all this, it's RRSPs and RSP. Season, that's great, but what the heck is an RRSP? should be the first question.

Andrea Crisp 13:21
Open. I'm just hoping I'm getting money back, you know, like from but yes, I do need to know, that's the thing. Yeah. And it's, go ahead. No, I was gonna say like, I think that's the importance and what I'm realizing more and more is the importance that I sit down with somebody and go, okay, like, this is my financial picture. Yes. And, you know, just getting advice and then hoping for the best and doing it on your own is, you know, is is just really like, you know, trying to hit a bull's eye and really not sure where your aim is you're blindfolded. But I think like what your to your point, you know, of saying, okay, when you are sitting with somebody who is a professional and going okay, you know, can you help me with making sure that you know, I am putting my money in the right places, I'm allowing to grow. So here I need I have a question. What is crypto? What the heck is happening? Who like, is this like an imaginary money? Like what's happening here?

Unknown Speaker 14:18
Well, it's it's not imaginary, okay. We're seeing like celebrities. I was listening to a podcast the other day, I can't remember which one it was now. But like, portion of celebrities are like taking parts of their salary and crypto. So...

Andrea Crisp 14:33
I have heard that I've heard even like my some of my own, like coaches having this

Vanessa Bowen 14:39
Yeah. So it's funny you asked that because inside the Angus Reid poll sponsored by cooperators 52% of Canadian advisors, so that cryptocurrency is the number one question that they are being asked about. And so I do believe it's here to stay and I do believe it has a place in your financial future. Picture. But I think what we're seeing right now is because of going back to FOMO. And going back to these social media pressures, because it's just the buzz, everyone's trying to jump into it. And these are, sometimes people are jumping into it. And they haven't even learned the basics of financial planning, or they don't even have the basics of their finances together. And so you can't just jump into something when you don't even you know, know what you're doing when it comes to the basis of financial planning. So it has a place, but it has a place, depending on where you're at. And I think the other thing I would caution people is that you have to make sure no matter what you are building your financial portfolio, you have to make sure it's diversified. So please don't throw all your eggs in crypto, like make sure maybe it's a portion potentially of your portfolio. But don't go sink your entire funds into cryptocurrency because that is not going to be very wise. But again, this is why if you sit with someone like a professional, they'll be able to help you figure out what's that correct diversification for you, based on your investment profile, based on where you're at in your financial life based on your goals. It's not just, you know, when we're talking about is so much in, in social media and the media. It's not just this, like one size fits all or this quick fix. Yeah, for everyone. And I think that's what people need to realize.

Andrea Crisp 16:23
Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Because like I, I've even heard, you know, the diversification around your income, you know, it's like, you know, many people are now looking to make multiple streams of income, versus like, you know, the old school way of just like one job that has a pension? Because like, do you think pensions are around forever? Or like, what, what's gonna happen with that?

Vanessa Bowen 16:49
Yeah, no, we're seeing definitely some, some companies are like phasing out their pensions, or they're definitely not as robust as they used to be in the past. And we're seeing and we've been seeing it for quite some time that our retirement planning is really now more on us to do back in the day, you could retire from your company and have a sweet pension and be good and not have to worry about anything. But it's totally different today, like we actually have to hold a huge responsibility of saving separately outside of our pension for our own retirement. And this is why you know, leveraging your own personal RRSP, or like you said, other streams of income, or investments are so necessary, you have to have a diversified portfolio. And again, this is where if you sit with someone, like have an advisor who's you know, really positioned to meet you where you're at, and that's why I really like cooperators, because they're doing that they have this people first approach. So they're meeting people right where they at, they realize everyone's story is different. Everyone's financial picture is different. And that's why you need to sit with someone who understands that who can meet you where you're at, and then it helps you to grow to where you want to go.

Andrea Crisp 17:58
Okay, so we got to talk about hot topic here. Yeah. Shame. Girl. Yes. You know, it's tough if you've made some poor financial decisions, or, gosh, like, maybe even not made poor financial decisions. You know, I mean, I'm, I'm a full, I'm an advocate of believing that we, we need to own up to our responsibilities, and we are at cause for where we are, you know, you and I think, agree with that, yes. 100%. And, you know, it even in my own life, and I've been thinking about, you know, I met cause for where I'm at in my own life. And, you know, there's, there's this shame, though, around, you know, not paying attention sooner, or, you know, making some financial mistakes, and then trying to figure out how in the world am I going to recover from these mistakes? Can we talk a little bit about the mindset? You know, if someone's thinking, okay, yeah, like, easy enough. You're saying go seeing a financial advisor, but like, the thought of even talking about my finances? You know, we even hear people who aren't even looking at their finances. Yes. Like, they're like, I haven't looked at a bank statement in forever. Like, I've heard someone say that recently. And I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I know that feeling. Because I have been there. I remember, like going, I just hope that there's money there. You know, like, yeah, absolutely. So, so we're talking about, you know, like, what does it look like? There's lots of people who are like, Yeah, of course, I know, my full financial picture. There's a lot of entrepreneurs who are like, I don't, yeah, what do we do to address the shame?

Vanessa Bowen 19:45
Yeah, it's such a great question. I'm glad you raised this, because I think that is honestly that is step one. Like without us actually addressing that we'll never be able to move forward and in the cooperators pool, what they actually found was 80% of advisors said that when people are experiencing these financial losses, or these financial mishaps or mistakes, it's really causing them to be overwhelmed with doubts is leading them to indecision and inaction. And so you have to realize that whatever happened in the past, whatever mistake, it is not a reflection of you, it is not your identity that you now have to carry into the future, you made the best choice, you could at that time, with what you knew, and with the information you had, it may not have had led to the best outcome, but you did your best. And I think it's us really having this grace on ourselves, and really releasing the shame, and not attaching that to our current identity. Because, you know, we talk a lot about our financial identity. And we know you can shift that identity. Yes, ma'am. Right, you can step into this new person, this new way of being, you can allow the past to be the past and not attach that to your future. Because we think of an energy and mindset perspective, holding that shame is using this low vibration, which is blocking that future abundance, blocking you from attracting that money to pay off the debts to achieve your financial goals. So yeah, just have to let it go. Because it's blocking that future button. It's for you.

Andrea Crisp 21:22
Yeah, and I've been thinking a lot about that, because I know that there's like, part, you know, like, we're both into the spirituality aspect of this. And so it's kind of like, you know, there's there's this place where we have to, to understand how do we shift our mindset, and how do we stay in the right energy, but then there's also the real practical aspect of like, okay, once we're in that space, where we can hold that, that's like, okay, now I actually do need to take action. You can't have just one? Yes. Gotta have both. And I think that's where a lot of, you know, a lot of entrepreneurs, a lot of coaches, creatives people in, you know, that have like, income that fluctuates, yeah, you know, they feel that stress and strain, because they're like, Okay, well, you know, I don't know what I'm going to get from month to month. But what would you say to somebody who is in that place, where their their their monthly income is fluctuating? And, you know, what's a step for them so that they can start, you know, moving towards, you know, that action? Taking?

Vanessa Bowen 22:29
Yeah, very great question. As entrepreneurs when your income is fluctuating, this is why you need to have a plan. And I know, it might seem like, Well, how do I create a plan, because I don't know what my income is. You may not know what your income is going to be, but you know, what your expenses are? Right? And you know, you can you can control your expenses. You know, you've got the set fixed expenses, like, you know, mortgage rent, internet, cell phone, those are fixed, but then there's the shopping and the EDL.

Andrea Crisp 22:56
Getting your nails done. Yeah, exactly.

Vanessa Bowen 23:00
Those are the things you can control. So this is why, for us who have this fluctuating income, it's really us focusing on what we can control, which is the expenses. So you need to have a plan, you need to have a budget, and then from there, it makes it easier, because then you know, what your your net, like zero is, like, what do I least need to make sure I bring in to cover all of these things. And then any, anything on top of that is gravy, you know, spend that like, go on your shopping spree or put it towards your debts and put it towards your savings. But when you don't have a base plan, what happens is, you have this month of great income, and then you're like, so proud of yourself, which you should be, but then you just go and spend the money. You don't plan whereas if you had a budget and had a plan, you can say, Okay, this income this month is amazing. I've got my month covered, but then you can say okay, well, I need another $4,000 or $5,000 for next month. Okay, let me actually peel out of some of this excess income and put it aside for next month. Like you're more prudent like you're you're making those those decisions in your finances that are actually going to lead you to better financial health, as opposed to just saying, Well, my income is whatever it is, I don't know what it's going to be so I'm not going to plan for anything. Yeah, that's just gonna cause you to stay in this spiral.

Andrea Crisp 24:18
Mm hmm. Yeah, you know, when we know better we do better. Right? Is that the phrase right? Yes. And I know for myself, like, you know, getting really just digging into my finances this year has been you know, one of the things that I've really been actively doing and, and the more I look at it, and the more I see the full picture, I go okay, I'm actually able like I'm creating space for money to come. Wow. And and that feels really good. And then I also don't feel fear, because I'm like, You know what, I just see it it I know what it is. I'm not afraid of it because I can see it. Yes, I know, whether it's where I want it to be or not, you know, I think that's improving as we go, but, but I just want to encourage anybody who's listening, it's like, oh, you know, I'm maybe not in the right place or feel like I, I can, you know, talk to somebody about this yet? It's like, yeah, when you when you feel like you can trust who you're working with, yeah, and they have your best interests at heart, then that is going to be, you know, probably the best scenario for you to unpack your whole financial portfolio.

Vanessa Bowen 25:34
100% I could not agree with that more. And that's why we're saying before, like, you can't do this on your own. Yeah, like, you cannot you have to, like you said, find that right person for you, that's gonna guide you. It's gonna have your best interest.

Andrea Crisp 25:49
Yeah. So what do you think now, as far as investing, like, as we're looking, you know, you know, people are maybe looking at, you know, different things on the internet, trying to figure out what they should do. Who do they turn to?

Vanessa Bowen 26:07
Yeah, it's a great question. And I think going back to what we've been saying a lot is you have to turn to the people who know best, which is a financial advisor, it's a financial professional, you can definitely obviously, you know, ask your friends, ask your parents, but also realize that their financial situation is very different from yours. So they're going to give to things they're going to give advice from their perspective and their situation. They're also going to give advice from their mindset, their money, blocks, yes, past experiences. Yeah. So this is why we have to be very careful where we take advice from and if you really are serious about shifting your financial life, and I know it's scary at first, but afterwards, I promise it will get better. But if you're really serious about this, you have to sit down with a financial professional. And you have to seek the right advice from the right person who knows, like who has the knowledge, and this is, this is their job, this is what they do. Like, this is what they eat, sleep, breathe. So why not go to the right person that's going to actually look at your finances holistically and give you that people first approach and advice.

Andrea Crisp 27:17
I'll tell you what, I wish that I would have taken my intuition a long time ago, I remember like, honestly, years ago, Vanessa, I had this feeling like I really should pay more attention to my finances. And then I just kind of let it sit there. And it bothered me bothered me bothered me, because I was like, I never felt like I was in a financial position, chat even make a difference. I was like, I'm just trying to get by I was a school teacher. And then I was in, you know, church ministry and not making a lot of money. And as things went, I was just like, I'm just trying to, like, get by, like, you know, survive and have a good life. But I wish that I had. So to anyone out there who is you know, even in a career position or in entrepreneurial position, I would just encourage you, you know, reach out. If it's, if it's about the shame, and you're like, you know what I really wouldn't, I'd love to have a conversation, then reach out to me, Excel, I'll chat with you. And I will, you know, help you to, you know, just uncover what may be holding you back from taking that next step. So that you can take the next step, and you can start looking at your money picture and, and see how you can move from a culture of just paying attention to what is right now. Oh, two sourcing from the future, which, you know, I love talking about. So. Vanessa, thank you for being here. Is there anything else that we've missed today that you want to share with us?

Vanessa Bowen 28:52
No, I think the way you just kind of wrapped up the end really just spoke to me of really seeing all of us step out of this culture of now and getting us more to connect to our future. And just from a mindset perspective, just that shift Elune is going to create is going to create not just a mindset shift, but an energetic shift. Because we are so focused on the now we're so focused on our current situation that we neglect, and think about how much attention we're putting to that right how much attention we're putting to where we're at right now, where we don't want to be, how much attention we should be putting to where we want to go and where we want to be. Just that shift in itself is going to align you with where you want to go is going to align you with the money in abundance, it's going to take you to where you want to go. And so we have to get ourselves out of this culture of now we have to get ourselves more connected to our future to where we want to go because that is that first step you have to align with that stuff aligning with where we're at today because you're if you say stuck, like that's what keeps us stuck. We align with it. Today, and then we attract all the things that keep us where we're at today. So we have to get out of this culture of now and step into where we want to go and connect to that. And then we're going to be able to align with it. But on that journey to make sure you're speaking to the right people, the right professionals, that cooperators is really positioned themselves in this this season that we're in to sit with people to meet them where they're at, to literally release the shame and guilt and knowing that you wherever you're at, there is possibility for your future. So speak to the right person and get the support you need.

Andrea Crisp 30:35
Girl That'll preach. That'll preach. Thank you for being here. I love you so much, it will make sure all of the links to connect with you and to even get the help you need are going to be located in the show notes. So people can go to the show notes at the courage cast calm, and connect that way and find out how they can start moving towards sourcing for their future, and move out of the culture of now. So thanks for being here.

Vanessa Bowen 31:07
Thank you for having me.

Andrea Crisp 31:09
Okay, if you're anything like me, you are going to pour yourself a glass of wine, light a candle, get those spreadsheets out and take a deep dive into looking at your finances. Because friend, no matter what it looks like right now, you can make a huge shift in your life. And I want to remind you that you are not stuck where you are. But it requires taking ownership and really getting honest with yourself about how you can start sourcing from the future. So I want to thank Vanessa for joining me today for lending her wisdom and expertise. As always, I will link up her information in the show notes so that you can access all of her socials and how to connect with her and even move forward in your own financial life. And also, I'd love for you to connect with me over at at Andrea crisp coach or at the courage cast. And if you're up for getting daily text messages with journal prompts, and intentions and things just to really help you shift your mindset in your life. Then I want to encourage you to text me the word courage 26474242429 Thanks for hanging out with me today. Until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live bravely.

Kate 32:40
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EP 200 | Celebrating The 200th Episode

WITH ANDREA CRISP AND ALEX STREET

 
You know what I was thinking? I was thinking that when I first started, I needed courage, and that’s why this was so important. I was fearful. I was very fearful when I first started, and I knew in order to make a bigger impact in my life, I needed to have courage, that is where this was born.
— Andrea Crisp
 

About Episode:

Today we're celebrating a huge milestone in the life of the podcast with the 200th episode by going completely off script and unedited. Join Alex Street as he interviews the host of the show Andrea Crisp on her journey through 200 shows.

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Transcript

Kate 0:00
You're listening to the 200th episode of The Couragecast, and we're so glad you joined us for this monumental milestone in the life of the podcast. My name is Kate Tenkate and I've been introducing you to the show for the past 199 episodes. This week we're doing something special, and I have the honor of introducing both the host of the show and our special guest. Today we're going behind the scenes with an unscripted, unedited version of the show. Our good friend and story coach, Alex Street, is interviewing Andrea in celebration of the 200th show. But before we get to the show, let's hear from a few of our friends.

Amanda Cahill 0:40
Hello, I'm Amanda Cahill, and along with my Bold Women Society co-founder Caytie Langford, we want to wish The Couragecast a very, very happy 200th episode.

Niki Ferguson 0:52
Hello, Andrea. It's Niki Ferguson, I just wanted to say congratulations, and happy 200th episode. I'm so excited for you and The Couragecast, and cannot wait to see where you go from here.

Alex Street 1:05
And yeah, and I'm so so grateful to be celebrating your 200th Episode! It's amazing, and I think about all of the ripples that this has created, like all of the people that have listened to this, what is that brought into their lives, and who they have impacted, like the David Meltzer says his whole goal is to teach like 1000 people how to be happy and how to teach other people how to be happy. It's like, because the math is if I can teach 1000 people, those 1000 people teach 1000 people, and he's like, then you get to the entire world. And what you were doing has a ripple effect that is self sustaining, and will continue on into eternity really, so grateful to be a part of this.

Alex Street 1:51
Um, okay, we got to, we got to do something here. Because we just record our conversations from now on. What do you want? What, I'm interviewing you, correct? What do you want? What's the goal here? Episode 200, what do you want?

Andrea Crisp 2:15
The goal, you know what, I want, I want to come out of it, like, you know, kind of where we've been, where we're going. And you know, I'm just gonna let you, I'm gonna let it happen. I don't know. I, you know what, I thought to myself, I could write it all out. And I could give it to you. And like, you know, "Here ask me like something like this." And then I thought, No, I'm just gonna..

Alex Street 2:40
Okay! About you, your business, the podcasts, all in the same. It's all together, right?

Andrea Crisp 2:49
Anything you want? Any, anything and everything!

Alex Street 2:55
Is it 200? Or is this 201? This will be 200. Okay!

Andrea Crisp 3:00
This will be 200.

Alex Street 3:00
So, do you want to like, introduce it, and then essentially hand me the microphone. You know, like, do, what do you, or will that be done in post anyways?

Andrea Crisp 3:17
I was actually thinking that I was gonna air some of this conversation right now.

Alex Street 3:25
There, okay, go for it. You put whatever you want. There's some burned bridges. Good. So, okay, so let me just get into it. Great.

Andrea Crisp 3:49
Yeah. I mean, I trust you with this, that's why I asked you to do it, right? And I figured if, if I, I think, when I'm thinking about, you know, the 200th episode, and like, where I've been, then my mind, you know, want to take control. I want to like, Oh, yeah. But you know, what I want I really want is I want to, I want to let go of control and I want some magic to start to really take place.

Alex Street 4:18
Okay.

Andrea Crisp 4:18
And that means I need to...

Alex Street 4:22
Let's go with it. This is good. Okay. Oh, Andrea, it is so so good to be with you in this setting in this format. You have invited me in, and I am incredibly honored and grateful for this opportunity. How are you feeling?

Andrea Crisp 4:44
Sick, you know, I know I'm actually like, all day I was like, I think I need to take a walk before I actually get on this call with you. It feels surreal. I think I look at other people and I go, "They've done shows that I've had 400 episodes or 600 episodes." And then someone said to me the other day like, "Wow, you've done 200 episodes like, no wonder, you really know how to interview people." And I thought about that for a second. I was like, wow, yeah, I guess I have.

Alex Street 5:17
Yeah!

Andrea Crisp 5:17
Like 200 is a lot.

Alex Street 5:18
Yeah. When was the last time you did 200 of something?

Andrea Crisp 5:20
Yeah.

Alex Street 5:22
It's right.

Andrea Crisp 5:24
Yeah. Okay. Well when you say that like that? Yeah, totally.

Alex Street 5:27
Like, you think of places that you've been a lot. I, you know, are sure we go to you know, we get food from a specific fast food place. I just told the story the other day about how the guys at Pizza Pizza, know my name, I go in, and they say, "Alex!", they give me pizza, and they give me free stuff. I haven't been there 200 times. I'd be lucky if I've been there 50 times. But my name is on the frickin receipt. So they see that, so they know me. And so when you do you put it in that perspective, you have committed to this. And it is absolutely worth a celebration simply for that. Because if there's something that our society, our culture doesn't do very much of these days, it is commitment, especially to something that's difficult and takes a lot of work. So well done!

Andrea Crisp 6:16
Yeah. This takes a lot of work!

Alex Street 6:18
It does.

Andrea Crisp 6:19
Thank you. No, thank you. I really do, I really do appreciate it, because I I've been thinking about that a lot. And about, you know, just even the past few weeks, there are times where I'm like, "Okay, well, maybe I just do the 200th episode, and that's it." You know, you know, am I done? Like is this it, like, yeah, you know, do I have any more? I think that's the biggest thing when you're doing a podcast is, is there any more to say? Anything more to say? Is there any other directions that haven't taken this yet, or can be explored?

Alex Street 6:54
So tell me about that a little bit. Because that's, that's where you're at. And that is where a lot of people are at, whether it's episode 200, or episode six, they get this feeling of like, can I really do this? Can I keep doing this? Can I continue? Is there enough left in the tank? Is there enough creativity? Do I really have that many ideas or friends or acquaintances to interview?

Andrea Crisp 7:20
Can I have Alex on again?

Alex Street 7:23
Yes, the answer is always yes. Do you have? So you face those questions? Those questions sound like...this, it could be fear asking those questions.

Andrea Crisp 7:42
Still.

Alex Street 7:44
Yeah, what is that fear? Fear of what?

Andrea Crisp 7:51
That even though I'm learning things in my life, even though I'm experiencing things, that I don't know enough about them, to talk about them, which is, I think what I felt at the beginning, too, because everything that I'm talking about on a podcast, on an episode, is based out of my own experience, my own learning, my own journey, some of it, you know, being shared more openly than other times, but you get to a point, you're like, "Well, can I eloquently talk about this? Or am I healed enough to share this particular thing in my life? Or do they want to know this? Do they care?" You know, does anyone you know like, if I asked guests to come on, do they really want to come on, like all those things, right? That people probably don't perceive that I probably think about, but they're still...

Alex Street 8:51
Yeah, so do I know enough about this? Have I healed from this? Enough to talk about it? Will they like it? Will they care? Will they say yes to my invitation? There's so much around all of that that you're saying dealing with an episode 200 and on, that you were dealing with with episode one, that is still here still going. So there's two thoughts of this that I have that I want you to tell me about. Because you've if what you're facing now is similar to what you were facing then, what has changed about the way that you approach this, and your business in general, and your life? If that's who you were back then, you wonder, how your how many years ago is that?

Andrea Crisp 9:43
It's like almost, it was four.

Alex Street 9:47
That's who you were back then when you started. Who are you now? How do you show?Yes, you still feel those things, but you're showing up differently. What's changed?

Andrea Crisp 9:59
Oh, 100% I think the journey that I've been on, as scary as it has been to talk about at times, you know, bringing people through, you know, me walking through my own entrepreneurship journey, and you know, the highs and lows of that. And then, you know, talking about, you know, anxiety and depression, and the highs and lows of that, and spiritual deconstruction, and that, you know, to you know, pivoting in my business, and what does that look like, and, you know, wondering, are people still following along in the journey. I think that when I look over four and a half years, or 200 episodes, the through line for me seems to be more about, if this is a journey, like Living Courageously is a journey, like it's not a destination place, like I do this, and I get that. It's more about, like, if I keep sharing, then there's gonna be people that come at certain points in the journey that needs certain things. They resonate with maybe what I'm going through at the time, or what I'm speaking about, or a guest that I'm bringing on and they're sharing about, it's helping them realize their purpose, it's helping to get clarity, it's helping them be confident, it's helping them to share their story, all those things, to make a bigger impact in their lives, in their world, and their community. And so I think about it that way, like that's...

Alex Street 11:31
So as you have shifted and grown, and you do find the ability to be vulnerable and authentic with your journey now, and revealing parts of yourself that you were hiding, you're saying that the ability to recognize that, "Oh, my audience is also changing. And, and will find..."

Andrea Crisp 11:56
Yeah!

Alex Street 11:57
...solace in this community, if it's one listener, and you, now you've got a community, right? If they say, "You're kidding, you too", now you've tapped into something in their life that is only happening, because you had the courage to speak about it.

Andrea Crisp 12:19
Yeah, you know, I've had, especially with this spiritual deconstruction aspect of, which is not really what the podcast is about. But, you know, I've shared about that, but I've had a lot of people, a lot of women come to me, you know, and talk to me about that, or, you know, they're in that place in their lives. And, you know, it's manifesting in their business, or it looks, things different for them now. And I think that part of you know, the journey resonates with so many, like, life used to look like this, and now it looks like this. And, you know, you can totally change the topic, but same applies, right. And so people are like, yeah, like, you know, in 2020 life look like this, and then 2022 life looks absolutely different.

Alex Street 13:05
This is what's so interesting about this for me, I'm one, I would love for you to explain that within the context of courage. Let's take that word courage to you, The Couragecast, and everything. But that word courage. Yeah, that's just what I mean. It meant something different four and a half years ago, when you decided to give this thing a moniker and say, Yeah!

Andrea Crisp 13:28
You know what it meant? I was, I wanted to, at the time, like, my whole tagline was empowering limit. Easy for me to say, empowering women to live bravely, right? By sharing stories of them overcoming.

Alex Street 13:44
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 13:44
That's what it meant before, and what it means now is really living in really having courage, like actually having courage every day. Because there's been so many things that, you know, I've gone through, or collectively we've gone through, that have, you know, taken a lot of courage to walk through, like, I look back, and I can't believe like, you know, two years of the podcast out of four has been in a pandemic. And so many of the episodes have been around, you know, things, you know, like, racial injustice, and, you know, and then, you know, transitioning from those things to like, really, like, all sorts of things that I would never have thought I would have talked about, or had to deal with, or had to share about, or communicate about, and every one of those episodes or bringing a guest on and asking them about their story, was me living out, you know, this, this place in my own life that took courage, because I had to learn right in front of the whole entire audience. I had to be schooled. I had to adapt. I had to constantly be reinventing in a way that plays out in front of everybody. And it looks maybe polished, or sounds polished, people, but in reality, like there's so many things going on in inside of me, that I'm trying to like navigate and get through and figure out and be like, "How do I express that, and how do I share that?"

Alex Street 15:25
So you've got this, when it began, you said it was empowering women to live bravely by sharing stories of overcoming. And now you're like, I, it's about Living Courageously. Like, it's what's happened seems like what has happened in a lot of places around the world is we got really simplified in what this is about. And we don't have time for everything else, like, I've just got to show up and do the thing. I just I, you know, for me, that's like, I could talk about a lot of things. I just really want to talk about stories. And the more clear that I am on that the more people come to me. The more clear that you are, that you help people, you know, experience and live in courage, the more they're gonna find you, the more that makes sense.

Andrea Crisp 16:14
Yeah.

Alex Street 16:14
And I think what, this is not much different, though, this empowering women to live bravely. That's where you began, because that's where you were. And as you have done that, as you say, it required courage of me all along the way. And more and more, like on a more intense level. You think that as you do something like this 200 times, it becomes easier? And you're saying, "No, but I'm choosing to go down the paths that require another level of courage from me. As I learn in front of people as I opened myself up, and I say, I don't know!" That that has required a new level of courage from you.

Andrea Crisp 16:59
The "I don't know" part as soon as you said that, that's so true. Because you, when you're in this place right now, and I think, "Okay, what's beyond 200 episodes, right?" I could have this like, eloquently crafted statement about what we're going to be doing, and how things are going to be and tune in for, you know, next week's episode blah blah, blah. And, you know, there are times where I'm like, "I don't know what I'm going to talk about next month", you know, or, "can I talk about what just happened? Or am I ready to talk about what just happened in the world?" And those are, you know, moments of like, okay, well, maybe I'll get two people listening that week. I don't know, you know, who knows? Maybe it's gonna be the, the most downloaded episode.

Alex Street 17:40
How do you? Okay, so when the question of I don't know, comes up? How do you, what kind of a practice or process do you use or go through to begin to find clarity amongst that confusion?

Andrea Crisp 17:56
I think the thing that I've relied on the most, the whole way through is my intuition. So just really being, you know, lead intuitively to know, "Okay, yeah, this is, this is where I'm going." I know that probably business people and people who've got more of a strategy mind would say, "You know, you should probably do this and you know, all the things," and, but at the end of the day, you know, doing something like a podcast, you really do have to be able to touch with the topic and connect with where you're at, and if I'm not connecting with it, then it's gonna fall flat. Anyway, so I think I learned that early on because I you know, there's in 200 episodes, Alex, I haven't had, you know, like, I haven't had a W for every one of them.

Alex Street 18:46
That's good, yup!

Andrea Crisp 18:47
Yeah, so!

Alex Street 18:49
Tell us about your worst ones. Who was your worst interview?

Andrea Crisp 18:55
You know, like that some of them have been like, not good. And some of the guests were not prepared, or not, you know, they really couldn't even share their story well, and foolishly or naively I guess, I aired them because I didn't know how to not. I didn't know how to set a boundary. I didn't know how to say no at the time. I mean, those are things obviously that I've had to learn along the way too, and that has taken courage in my own life to you know, have a recording and listen bvack and go, "This is awful, I cannot air this!" And you know, I've been disappointed so many times by having guests on, like, okay, I guess I'm just getting real vulnerable. I mean, you know, you know, having them air this. I'm totally airing, I totally can air this, but it feels like it's just a conversation. There's no script here, obviously. But there have been times where like, I've had people on and I had this really big expectation for...

Alex Street 20:01
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 20:02
You know what could happen as an outcome to them being on the podcast, and the expectation wasn't met. The person you know didn't share the episode, or you know didn't you know even answer back when I thanked them. So there have been a lot of disappointments, you know, along the way, as well as some incredible connections with people that maybe I didn't see it coming. And all of a sudden they became like, you know, like lifers. Like they're like friends or like, yeah, these people will be my life.

Alex Street 20:38
So are those relationships worse then disappointments?

Andrea Crisp 20:43
Absolutely. Cuz I mean, how do you learn, right?

Alex Street 20:45
And that's what's so beautiful about this is, it sounds like you're talking about a podcast. And it also sounds like you're talking about, you know, last month, like your life last year, like, yeah, there's a lot of disappointments, there were some connections that I thought would happen. There were some, some launches that I thought would thrive. There were things that I, I really expected to go a certain way. But that person didn't respond how I thought they would, or not at all. And then...

Andrea Crisp 21:13
Yep.

Alex Street 21:14
As I continue to put myself out there, huh, there's some really incredible connections and network, networking that has come out of this and truly, like deep friendships that you've created, simply because, you know, we stop ourselves from doing the thing, because for fear of those disappointments, and what will those disappointments mean? If they don't respond, that means exactly what you were afraid of before, and are afraid of now going forward? Which is, "Yeah, it wasn't good enough. It wasn't what we needed to hear." She clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. Right?

Andrea Crisp 21:57
Yeah, it's so true. It's funny, you say that, I had a client today I was talking to him. And one of the questions I asked him was, what are you making that mean? And I think if I, if I knew that now, or if I knew that, like years ago, when I first started, I could have easily, you know, gotten through some of those disappointments a lot, with a lot more, I don't know, grace. But I made it mean, you know, I'm not good enough. I made it mean that, you know, things aren't growing fast, and must be something wrong with me. And I think at the end of the day, it's like, we assign meaning to things, you know, that are not always true. That's just a perspective. And it's, you know,

Alex Street 22:44
Yeah, which then I think, you know, to add to this, I think what's so, what's been so great to watch in your journey. And, you know, as we've shared this journey, together, you and I kind of just, you know, all along the way, and then the friendship that we've had is to see the growth, and to see how, yeah, there's there's ups and downs, those blips here, here and there.

Alex Street 23:07
But it's no surprise, but I'm going to see the story in it. And I'm going to see for you, right, whether it's what do you making that mean, can be such an in the moment thing, and in the moment reaction, that's what's going on there. And so for you, even in this moment to say, "Do I know enough to keep going for episode 300? You know, will I have 100 More episodes in me for this," which then filters through all those questions that you asked earlier? Am I enough? Do I have enough? All those things? Do I know enough people? And that's such an in the moment right now? Do I have what it takes? I don't think I do, because I'm creating this meaning around it. But if you look bigger, and you look more consistently in your story, Andrea, you have transformed in such significant ways, and we just did a microcosm of like just in four and a half years, through this specific context of this podcast, you have changed in your definition and how you approach life. So if somebody doesn't email you back, so if somebody doesn't share the episode, who cares? Because my goodness, is that another learning experience, is that another thing that you can share, and you can courageously show up with because yours is a story of constantly overcoming other people's expectations, disappointments, and creating a world of your own?

Andrea Crisp 24:33
See, that's why I asked you to do this. I knew there was a reason for that.

Alex Street 24:38
Oh, what did you just hear? What? What? What stuck out there?

Andrea Crisp 24:42
You know what I was thinking? Yeah, I was thinking that when I first started, I needed courage, and that's why this was so important. I was fearful. I was very fearful when I first started, and I knew in order to make a bigger impact in my life, that I needed to have courage, that is where this was born. You know, what happened was I had to go through some stuff, I had to continually make decisions that were brave to be brave. Some of it worked out, and some of it didn't. There were disappointments, and there were triumphs. But at the end, you know, now, I realize how confident I am in who I am. And in how I show up in the world. And it still takes courage. But I have an ownership now over who I am, that I don't know, that I had when I started. So a lot of fear there. And I think there's, I think there's a difference between being fearful, and being courageous. Because when you're in fear, you're just living in this whole place of like, overwhelming fear, and some of it's real, and some of it's not. And when you're just having courage, it's like, "No, I'm just gonna take a risk, and I'm gonna put myself out there", and there may not be fear. But there's unknown. And I think now I'm in that place. So it's more about like, "Can I be in the unknown? Can I expand? Can I be uncomfortable? Can I do those things versus can I face the fear? So courage looks different today than it did when I first started.

Alex Street 26:48
Wow. I mean, you said...

Andrea Crisp 26:53
And that's what you pay for story coaching, friend!

Alex Street 27:00
So you said if I'm going to, this is the key, I think a lot of people are have this, this statement in their mind, and they they need to proclaim it with their mouth. If I'm going to make an impact, it's going to require courage. And, and that led you to, you know, through sweaty palms, and I don't know what else, hit record, and publish on episode number one...

Andrea Crisp 27:30
Yeah,.

Alex Street 27:31
....four and a half years ago. Now, here you are. And you've had all these amazing moments and all these incredible guests. And you have grown and this is become, you know, like all podcasts, somewhat of a diary to share your growth process along the way in a public facing place. And now, you're like courage has changed. That kind of courage? Oh, come on.

Andrea Crisp 27:59
Yeah.

Alex Street 27:59
Like, hold my beer. Like, let's go. That's no problem. I guess I could do that again. And yet, you're facing things out and coming up with thing now that's a whole, it seems like the same thing. But it's like, as you said, you're doing things now that you didn't think you could before. But it's still requiring a whole other kind of courage. Level of that.

Andrea Crisp 28:24
Yeah. The, up level of that is is big. And I remember, I remember thinking, when I first started, like, my first few episodes, and the guests I had on, I was like, I remember thinking, "Oh, I hope people really think that this is really cool. And like that my guests are really cool. And you know", and because I wanted to be, I wanted to be somebody. Right? And if, if they were cool, then I would be somebody...

Alex Street 28:54
Cool by association.

Andrea Crisp 28:55
...you recognize. Yeah, I can't believe that I'm admitting that now, seems so dumb. But anyways, you know, I think now, I'm like, what is it? What does it look like now and I'm going to record an episode of me, it feels like I want the person who's listening to know there, somebody. You know, and I think that it's as much as I'm sharing about me all the time, like I am sharing today about me. I think the underlying reason why I share about me is so that somebody can hear something about my story about what I've gone through and resonates. It hits home and it's like yeah, if she can do it, if she can live through this, if she can move beyond some of these things. Change, grow, expand and hurl.

Alex Street 29:52
Then can I!

Andrea Crisp 29:55
Yeah.

Alex Street 29:55
I mean, it's such a transformative human experience statement. If they can do it, so can I. And yeah, it's this idea. It's about me. But really, it's about you. I'm telling my story. And the communicators that we tune out from, it is about them. They're telling their stories just because they have a microphone, and they can talk, and they hope that somebody will listen, bullhorn on the street, like, just go for it. But what's happening with that guy on the street corner, most people are just walking by I don't care. It's just noise. But when you say something that sounds like, "Oh, she's telling me this because it's what we're all feeling. That's a different level. And that's a compassion that you bring that I know is why your listeners listen. Because it is, it's compassion, mixed with courage, that allows you to hit record now, and show up for the sake of the listener. Which is admirable.

Andrea Crisp 30:57
Yeah.

Alex Street 30:58
And, you know, at the very least, is admirable on this and I look at that and go like, Oh, man, I can show up like that. And I think, truly in our world today, it's the kind of work that is heroic. It's you stepping forward and saying, "I've got a thing to do, and I'm gonna go do it."

Andrea Crisp 31:17
Yeah, it's even scary to think today, like I can feel like in my body right now. I can tell in my voice, and I'm sure maybe even people who listen to the podcast a lot would know, notice a difference in how I sound right now versus how I would sound in any other podcast. I feel like this is showing up on a level like, again, like I said,

Alex Street 31:49
Yeah?

Andrea Crisp 31:50
You know, no script. I'm not filtering this. I'm not trying to make it sound better. Or, you know, of course, like with any podcasts, anything you do you try to your best to, like, you know, make sure...

Alex Street 32:05
But, okay, wait, but yeah, but that's, that's!

Andrea Crisp 32:07
You know?

Alex Street 32:09
That is not, that's different. You, yes, you'll make it sound good, because you're a creator. And you're gonna bring your best, you're a creative, so you're gonna bring your self, sure I'll get on the keys and play something good on the piano. I'm going to do my best.

Andrea Crisp 32:27
Yeah.

Alex Street 32:27
Like, that effort is I'm going to bring it so even today, in this thing, you're saying, I sound different than I would if I was showing up on another podcast?

Andrea Crisp 32:39
Well, even on my own, like, I feel like, I knew that this needed to be another level, like of depth. And, and I can hear it in my voice I can tell and who I am like that I'm not even just like the normal inflections. I talk about podcasts like that, you know, like, I'm not doing. I feel like because we're friends, and we're having a conversation like, this is how I would show up to you with coffee, you know, the real part of me that is like, "I don't know, like, I don't have the answer. And I don't have it all figured out." And, kind of so I feel like this. I wanted people to...

Alex Street 33:21
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 33:22
To hear that, know that. I don't have this all figured out. Yeah,

Alex Street 33:30
So, exactly. And the thing is, what is, and what we're talking about here, right is this level of authenticity, and the courage it takes for you to show up like this and say, "Hey, let's just share our coffee conversation with the world and call it episode 200", requires courage of you because you're right. Otherwise, I show up.

Andrea Crisp 33:53
Yeah.

Alex Street 33:54
Ready to perform. And it's...

Andrea Crisp 33:57
Yes,

Alex Street 33:58
A performance, you know, Jerry Seinfeld gets up for a gig. And he delivers his gold and has the place in stitches. He performed that, he goes backstage, he's talking with his friends. Does he show up differently? Probably, slightly different, because he's not in front of a crowd. He's not doing that thing, making sure that, right the inflections, he's not thinking about his jokes as he goes, and trying to get that right. Is he still Jerry? Yeah. He's still Jerry. And do I feel like I got an inauthentic version of him on the stage? No, I don't think so. I just feel like I got...

Andrea Crisp 34:36
Yeah.

Alex Street 34:37
I got what I'm supposed to get. So you showing up on a podcast with the polished version. Let's call it a performance version, is different than right now, but it's not any less you.

Andrea Crisp 34:53
I know, and I think it you know, like, as you're saying that I'm thinking about like when I write the podcast, like a lot of times I sit down, and I write out what I want to say, or how I want to share it. And, and then when I go to record, I try to be in the moment more. I don't, I'm not just trying to read off the script, but I am in the moment. But there is part of me that knows how to show up and speak. So, and I know how to show up in a room. And I do those things. And I bring, I bring my best, I bring, and I don't think I'm not bringing my best right now. But I bring my best to keep the attention of the person listening, obviously, to bring them on a journey. But today, it's like, "Okay, no, I want I want people to just kind of go a little window in on this is some of the, the, behind the scenes, this is like, you know, what, what I'm thinking about and how this is all happening", because I think, you know, you can listen to any podcast, and, and it's like smoke and mirrors, right? Like you're like hear this, or you can look at any online creator, or person a lot of like, what you see is not when it all distilled down, you know, there's a lot that goes into it. You know, and so it's kind of nice to kind of pull that back and go, "Yeah, so that's what it looks like on the other side."

Alex Street 36:22
Okay. I haven't told you this. But I think my word that I picked for 2022, to like guide me through this, is courage. And recognizing for me, that is knowing that I need to, to leave something behind. And I need to, if I'm going to grow in the way I expect to believe that is coming to me, that it's going to require saying yes to things in a new way. If you were talking to me, and I want the audience to hear this and hear themselves in this, as somebody who is saying, I am choosing to live with courage this year, I'm choosing to make courageous choices. What would you say to me, to help me, to remind me, to kind of, you know, keep with me, as I face whatever's coming up for me?

Andrea Crisp 37:29
That's a good question. You know, what I, you know, knowing you, and telling you, for sure, I would say that, you know, it's gonna require something more of you, it's going to require a version of you that you haven't tapped into yet. And that part of you is going to have to expand, and become a little bit more uncomfortable. And it's going to require you to shift how you view life, and yourself in a way that will, you know, if you want more impact, then it's going to require more. And that peace of courage, that those steps that you take, that are courageous every day, or the really big ones, or the really small ones, it doesn't matter. They're all about allowing yourself to open up and expand and, know that there's so much more beyond what you see in front of you. Believing that is true. Acting like that is true. Living like that is true. And you don't have the playbook. But that's okay. And so that's what I'd say to you.

Alex Street 38:53
Well first of all, I got to receive that. And, what I heard in that is somebody speaking from the authority that they have lived this. And I'm just so grateful for your experience, how you bring us and your listeners in on your experience, how this journey up to episode 200 has been that, and everything that you just told me is the summary of what I believe that you have experienced through this and how you have encouraged yourself to take each next step. Am I right?

Andrea Crisp 39:37
Yeah, I feel a little bit teary. Honestly like it feels like wow, I remember the year leading up to launching the podcast, and feeling so inadequate, and then doing it and feeling like "Oh wow, this is amazing. This is so cool." And having There's really big moments and like, you know, things along the way, but I think the big lesson is stay in the game. You know, like, I think that's, you know, the most courageous thing you could do for yourself is just stay in the game. And it doesn't matter that you're playing a different position or, you know, even maybe you're benched. Maybe you're the coach one, you know, yeah, one game or one season or whatever, whatever it looks like, I think that, that you're in the game, and that you, you keep yourself in there. And if you fail and fall and you're disappointed, and things don't turn out the way you thought they would, that you don't give up and say, "Okay, well, I guess this wasn't meant for me, or I guess I'm not good enough. Or, I guess all of these things." It's like, no, it's like, Where can I find one more like, morsel of like, courage to take that next step? Stay in and you can say that to a kid, you can say it to an adult, you can say it to anybody.

Alex Street 41:07
And if they found somebody listening to this and going, like, "Yeah, but how do I know that this is the game that I'm supposed to stay in?" Well, that's how they, that's when they need to contact you. You will help them figure that out. Am I right? I mean, like that, that seems like the kind of conversation.

Andrea Crisp 41:25
You know what, though? Absolutely. And that's the whole thing. Like, I mean, there's so much in the courage, like, you know, like, I look at, you know, my own journey. And like, you know, if you really had followed my journey, you'd realize that even as a coach or an entrepreneur, I've pivoted, right, so I've had to get, you know, clear on, you know, what it is that I truly want to do. And that, you know, you've been part of that process. So, I think that it's going through those stages, and really understanding, yeah, there's, there's some clarity and vision that is required, and that there's some sifting out of things, that takes courage, you know, stepping into your personal power and confidence and, you know, believing you're worthy of you know, all the things that takes courage, and then actually doing the thing takes courage. So, you know, you might like is, am I supposed to be doing this, is a big question?

Alex Street 42:20
Right?

Andrea Crisp 42:20
What's this? What is this, right, like, so maybe it's a different iteration of this. But it's still this, because who you are innately at your core, is the very thing that you're out working every single day, that's making an impact in the world. And if you're outworking who you are, genuinely every single day, you're making an impact, you're changing the world, you're sharing your story. So this can change all the time doesn't matter. It just grows, expands becomes because...

Alex Street 42:54
You are less attached to what this is, whether it's a program, or busi,ness idea or anything, you're less attached to that because you are so clear on the core. Which again, is where I think that great graciously, thankfully, is where we find you today. And how you, as a host, get to now go forward and say, "I'm going to keep doing this thing because I do continually have new things to bring." And I'm going to bring them to you and as long as you show up like that, I think we'll show up and listen. And I'll come on as a guest 10 More times if you need me too to fill those gaps. But that is you know, what I hear that I've received from you today is that really, this is about Living Courageously, and Living Courageously is about being authentic, learning, and sharing the journey with others.

Andrea Crisp 44:04
Yeah, it is. I've never been more excited to do more podcasts after this conversation.

Alex Street 44:11
Wow, get to it. She's up all night recording. Recording. I got episode 256. Oh, phenomenal. I love this. Uh, what can people expect as you know, this goes forward and the season's keep going? Where does this go?

Andrea Crisp 44:33
You know, thank you. Yeah, thank you for asking that. I think we're gonna keep growing. I think we're gonna keep you know, peeling back the layers of what's possible. And, we're going to do it imperfectly. And we're going to do it. Sometimes, you know, feeling a little clunky. And that's okay. It doesn't have to be picture perfect. This is, life is not that way and we're not going to be that way, we're gonna show up. And we're gonna just take steps together. And we're going to open ourselves to expand to more, and we're going to be open minded. And so I just I know that if you know the women, men listening to this, my parents, shout out to my mom and dad, who jokingly sometimes listen to...

Alex Street 45:24
Ma and Pa Crispy, is that what we call them?

Andrea Crisp 45:27
Yeah, they're like, "We do listen to the podcast!"

Alex Street 45:33
Yeah, not anymore.

Andrea Crisp 45:37
You know, like, Yeah, I think that, you know, it's, it's, we're growing, right? Like we are all growing. And if you're a creative, and an entrepreneur, and a coach, and somebody, or somebody just has a message, or something to share with the world, like, we're going to do this together, we're going to be courageous together, and we're going to keep growing, and we're going to, and my desire is that women around the world will position themselves in a way that will make a huge shift in the world. And that will require them to take a lot of steps of courage to live bravely every single day.

Alex Street 46:16
Well, I, I am so grateful for this opportunity, I, there was a there was a message that I taught many years ago around the word, encourage encouragement, and to encourage one another with love. Which, you know, is a is a verse, however, that triggers anybody, whatever in Ephesians, and it stuck with me.

Andrea Crisp 46:40
There's a third, you can listen to!

Alex Street 46:43
But there's this, you know, that it says to encourage one another, and, and I always dug into that word encourage and just at its very basics, it's really easy to see is that to encourage is to give courage. And as this being one of, and we look at what we can give each other, what we can share with the world. And for you showing up as somebody who from the beginning said, "I want to make an impact that's going to require courage from me", you tapped into something that you had, and then found enough of it, that it's overflowing from you. And now you are out here, and it's you are encouraging your listeners, you are giving courage out of an overflow of what you have found and experienced. And I just think that that is such a beautiful thing. And it's why you're right, this will grow, and will be will help people worldwide to make more impact than we could imagine. So congratulations!

Andrea Crisp 47:50
You have no idea what that just, thank you, you have no idea what that just meant to me. So thank you!

Alex Street 47:55
Right.

Andrea Crisp 47:55
Thank you.

Alex Street 47:56
Well you get to unpack that over the next 100 episodes, so go for it!

Andrea Crisp 48:02
And like, can I just say thank you for holding space for me, for being here and for allowing me to share my story. And the listener for being here. Whether you've listened to one or 200 episodes. And also I want to thank my buddy, Stephen Crilly, who's like, I feel like I cry talking about, who's like, edited every single episode, put music behind it. And just I'm grateful to have done it together. And with that before I start bawling big fat tears. Thanks for listening to the 200th episode!

Alex Street 48:43
This has been a real treat. Andrea, way to go. Congratulations! We all celebrate, whoever's listening right now. Just give one big clap for Andrea, and I'm sure that she will hear that wherever she is, sometime whenever this launches. This has been great.

Andrea Crisp 49:00
Thanks. Thanks, Alex and friend. Thank you for hanging out with us today. Until next time, remember you have everything you need to live bravely.

Alex Street 49:12
Ah, that's it.

Andrea Crisp 49:15
Thanks, bud.

Alex Street 49:16
That was good. That was fun. You know what I like?

Andrea Crisp 49:17
Yeah. What do you like, that is dark in here now?

Alex Street 49:24
That is happening in here too. Um, I have like, I think I asked you like three questions. But it was, it was so much more of like, you talk, that brings up something for, I'm like, yeah, that that makes me think of this. And then you just know when to come in and be like, yeah, like I didn't ask a question. I was like, Well, tell me about that. You're just like, you jump in, and then share your expanded thought on that. And then it comes back. It's just that's conversation right? And, and I think that's where it's fun and it flows and so, well done!

Andrea Crisp 50:06
Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate that you. I knew if anybody was gonna be able to hold space like, I'm like, "Alex is going to be able to." And I have no idea like, honestly, I had no idea. So it surprised me as much as I'm like, let's see what happens?

Alex Street 50:23
That's great. I also had no idea, whether that's what you want to hear or not, not prepared. Just came in are like, "Alright, have fun."

Andrea Crisp 50:31
But yeah, but that's I think, and that, honestly, is kind of what I wanted, was hoping for I was like, because I think that, you know, like, it's great to have like, Okay, well, this and this and like, make it be perfect and polish and all that stuff. But at the end of the day that people are looking for something a bit different. And so yeah, this is the thing.

Kate 50:53
Thanks for joining us for the 200th episode. We are truly grateful that you have been along for the ride. There are a few people we'd like to thank Andrea, Alex, our production assistant, Claudia Henock, Stephen Crilly, who's produced all 200 episodes and written original music for the show. And me, of course, it's not awkward at all thanking myself.

 
 
 

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Your mindset is your greatest asset! But it is also what may be holding you back from taking that next step in your life. Are you ready to reframe your mindset so that you can step more confidently into your purpose?

EP 199 | Sourcing From The Future To Leave a Lasting Legacy

WITH ANDREA CRISP

 
And I think that’s the beautiful part about when you think about sourcing, you know, from the future, it’s like, you realize that every step of courage that you have to take in your life, is because at the end of, you’re actually making the decisions from the future, from yourself in the future. And, and right now you get to live in the present, but you can either access from the past, or you can access from the future.
— Andrea Crisp
 

About Episode:

Sometimes you have to take a look back and see how far you've come in order to take that next brave step in your life. In today's episode, I'm joined by Kimberly Valerie, Jessica Jovanovich, and Tyler Ranalla -- three extraordinary humans and coaches who have become my good friends. We talk about how our healing journey can inform our present situation, and what it looks like to manifest our future and leave a legacy for those who we have the privilege of impacting.

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Connect with Kimberley Valerie at @kimberley.valerie

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Bio's for Panelists:

Kimberley Valerie

@kimberley.valerie

www.theedgecoachingmethod.com

Kimberley Valerie is a trained Social Worker, Certified in Subconscious Imprinting, Life and Success Coaching, Hypnotherapy, and T.I.M.E. Techniques. The E.D.G.E. formula is the system Kimberley created out of her own transformational stories that she now shares with others.

Tyler Ranalla

@tylerranalla

Tyler Ranalla, is a life-purpose coach who is also a father to three amazing humans, husband to Mayela, and is impacting so many entrepreneurs, and creatives in leaving a legacy for years to come.

Jessica Jovanovich

@jessica.jovanovich

Jessica Jovanovich is a mindset + manifestation coach. She specializes in coaching driven women on how to create the life and business of their dreams. As an expert in manifestation, she helps her clients step into their intuition, operate in their profound power, create from a place of ease & flow, and let go of the hustle and grind mentality.

Transcript

Andrea Crisp 0:00
Sometimes you have to take a look back and see how far you've come in order to take that next brave step in your life. In today's episode, I'm joined by Kimberley Valerie, Jessica Jovanovich, and Tyler Ranalla, three extraordinary humans, and fellow coaches who have become my really good friends. We're going to talk about our healing journeys, and how they can inform our present situation, and our businesses and what it looks like to manifest from the future, and really leave a legacy for those who have the privilege of impacting.

Andrea Crisp 0:36
Hey, friend, are you ready to take courageous steps to create a life and business you love? Welcome to The Couragecast. I'm Andrea Crisp, mindset coach, author, and a multi passionate entrepreneur. For years, I was afraid to allow myself to shine, that was until I discovered that I could step into my own power, shift my mindset, and take ownership of my own destiny. Now I coach women across the globe who are ready to own their life and make a massive impact. Each week I'll share conversations with amazing humans who have been willing to face their fear and pursue their purpose. I'll provide a blend of practical and spiritual advice to help you take brave steps in your own life and business.

Andrea Crisp 1:18
Hello, friend, welcome to The Couragecast. My name is Andrea, and I'm your host. And do I ever have a treat for you today? This month, we are in the lead up to the 200th episode, which is a huge milestone in life of any podcast. But it seems like a really appropriate time to be celebrating because I can feel this shift taking place in my life. And maybe you can too. And lately I've been asking myself, "How can I start sourcing from the future and making decisions about my life by asking my future self?" I know that sounds a little bit weird, right? But it can be all too easy to stay stuck in our past circumstances, and make all of our decisions from those experiences. But when we start to access from the future, the future becomes wide open to us. There are so many possibilities.

Andrea Crisp 2:13
So today on the podcast, I invited three of my really good friends to join me because of their influence in my life over the past year. And because quite frankly, I love what they're doing in the world. So let me tell you a little bit about Kimberley. Kimberley Valerie is a trained social worker, certified in subconscious imprinting, life and success coaching, hypnotherapy, and time techniques. And she's also just introduced the edge formula, which is a coaching system Kimberley created out of her own transformational stories that she now shares with others.

Andrea Crisp 2:45
Jessica Jovanovich is a mindset and manifestation coach, and she specializes in coaching driven women on how to create the life and business of their dreams. As an expert in manifestation, she helps our clients step into their intuition, operate their profound power, and create from a place of ease and flow, and let go of the hustle and grind mentality.

Andrea Crisp 3:06
And last but not least is life purpose coach, Tyler Ranalla, who is a father to three amazing humans, husband to Mayela, and is impacting so many entrepreneurs, and creatives in leaving a legacy for years to come.

Andrea Crisp 3:25
Friends, I am so excited for you to hear this episode. It is truly been one of my favorites to record, and in the lead up to the 200th episode, it is exactly what we need to hear as we are shifting and expanding our lives to source from the future.

Andrea Crisp 3:44
Well, I am super excited. We are at episode 199. I've got three of my very favorite humans on this conversation today. I'm so excited. The lead up to the 200th episode. I feel like I'm just gonna get a little bit of a clamped, I'm looking at your like amazing faces. Kimberley Valerie, Tyler Ranalla, and Jessica Jovanovich, welcome to The Couragecast!

Kimberley Valerie 4:08
Happy to be here.

Tyler Ranalla 4:09
So happy to be here, and part of this like journey and just being like, helping you take it to this next level, be like really being a permanent part of it. Like yeah, thank you so much!

Andrea Crisp 4:24
Yeah, no, it is my it is my honor to have you guys on like, when I was thinking about what what it's going to look like to reach this major milestone in my life, I thought about, you know, who are people that I really feel like have a message to share with the world, who are making an impact and maybe making an impact in a different way than each other. But we have been in a cohort together, Fast Foundations Mastermind, for a good part of a year and I have come to know you each individually and just absolutely adore the three of you. And so I know that you have so much to share with the audience. Today we're talking about all about sourcing from the future, and maybe people have heard what, what that is all about. Or maybe that's like, a term you've never heard before, and we're going to talk about it from three different points of view. And from what we can learn in order to actually make decisions from our future selves. So I'm gonna start with Kimberley.

Kimberley Valerie 5:24
Oh, I'm gonna start sweating!

Andrea Crisp 5:27
I'm like just yeah, yeah, don't worry, I'm already sweating, so.

Jessica Jovanovich 5:32
I'm glad you're going first, thanks Kimberley!

Andrea Crisp 5:36
So can't really tell us a little bit about who you are and who you serve.

Kimberley Valerie 5:40
Okay, thank you. Thanks. Again. Thank you, Andrea, for allowing me, invited me to be part of this instrumental moment in your work and personal life, really, because I know it's a work thing. But it really comes from us personally. It's comes from our person. So it is all of who we are. So who am I? So I when I'm asked that question like sometimes for ease, because who am I and what I do are two different things, right? I am a human being, I am a soulful human being. I am all the roles that I play wife, mother, sister, friend, grammy, like all those pieces. But what I do, and what I've done my whole entire life is I, I'm a social worker, a master coach, it didn't matter if I was like, I'm the oldest of five, twin, it didn't matter if I was rallying the troops of my siblings and taking care of them and leading them, or out on my own making my own way, I have always been, this is gonna sound really cheesy, but so I was born a twin. And I literally grew next to a human being, connected from the moment of conception, we were connected and grew in this space. And it really is where my purpose was, was really created in that moment. And that's to connect with other human beings in a way that brings influence and power to their lives, whatever that means.

Kimberley Valerie 7:03
So I've just kind of lived that, and express that in, in all that I've done in my life. So now what I do, I mean, I've been I've had a variety of different functions, but always in a place of bringing expansion, new growth, new experiences to wherever I go. So I've kind of a serial entrepreneur and social work. At one point, the funny thing is, is those two things really collided because I was working in this really grassroots, social work place. At the same time, I was starting to become really involved in business and amass wealth. And so I was really in this really kind of incongruent place, right? And so that was geology, and over the years have just evolved with the invitations that life has given me to evolve. And so now I'm working in the online, right?

Andrea Crisp 7:54
Now, I was to say, you've had a lot happen in your life too, circumstances, and how have they contributed to that?

Kimberley Valerie 8:00
Yeah, I'm certainly you know, I'm like every other human being, I'm no stranger to adversity. My childhood was very unstable. We were very poor. I was really severely abused as a teenager, young teen, hospitalized, and then removed from my family. I was rejected by my culture, because I blocked with while I was blonde, now I'm gray, blond haired, blue eyed, native ancestry, and spent some time living on reserve but didn't look like I fit in. So I had, you know, had those kinds of rejections and trauma as a child that started me off. You know, as an adult, I said, "I had a really good adult life, or have a really good adult life." And I always said, it was like, it was like, it was because my childhood was just wrought with all of this kind of like trauma that I got to like, I know I went met a wonderful man, and we have a great family. I was like, anything I wanted to do, I was able to do, but what I soon learned when I was, and so five years ago, I was diagnosed with breast cancer. And in that time, of a journey of exploring what that the whole situation, which is a whole other podcast, what I learned was the majority of how I had been responding in life, no matter how conscious I thought I was, no matter how intentional I had been living my life, I had great relationships with my family, we had moved through forgiveness, like all of that kind of stuff. I was a large part of how I was behaving was really out of a trauma response. And, and that there became some really deep learning. So those are kind of the highlights, I think, with a few other things.

Andrea Crisp 9:45
Thank you for sharing that because you know it it does really make a difference. You know, when we're telling our stories and that vulnerability and honesty of you being able to share you know where you've come from, I think will really make a difference as we even go through the conversation today because It's gonna inform why it is that you do what you do today and how you are sourcing from your future self?

Kimberley Valerie 10:08
Well, that's really..

Andrea Crisp 10:09
A huge difference where you were, e

Kimberley Valerie 10:10
Well that's and that's really what what were the click was for me. So in the first part of my adult life, I was just looking at forward, right? Anything I wanted to do. However, if I, if somebody else could do it, I still believe then it's for me too. If somebody else has achieved it, it's for me too. If it comes to my mind, it's for me, why not try? But here's the thing I did not look back, I did not have, I did not have any respect, or consciousness about the impact of the past. So now, you know, I'm in this kind of like, introspective reflective journey because of breast cancer as much as I wanted to reject that. Not the breast cancer, yes, but what it meant, like all the pieces that it meant, what happened is now I'm like spending some time healing, really healing from trauma, healing.

Kimberley Valerie 11:01
And now I'm, I'm seeing that what's happening is most of us get stuck in that space. When we start to heal the trauma, when we start to really like, when we're safe enough to start digging in and seeing how it's really showing up in real life, it can, we could stay there. And so where's this forward piece? Right? Where's this future piece? How could we unpack the past, and learn from that in a real impactful way that changes your soul, right, changes everything, and really anchor into the future. And not, and so that is really the sweet spot. So I love your topic, because that's what gets me jacked, is this thing anchoring into the future, is taking, taking the past, which is so funny, because my husband who loves history, he loves past everything. For the majority of our married life, he would say to me, you know who it was, he would find it so boring, because he's like, You don't you don't care about history, you don't care about, you know, we go on holidays, and he'd want to go, like we went to Italy he want to do all the things about history, right? And he made me swear, I would not complain, I would not roll my eyes. I would not because I and so now he's like, "Oh my gosh, you you you get why history is so important!" So it's kind of a funny story between him and I, but really understanding that we can't live there. We need to unpack some of that.

Andrea Crisp 12:23
Yeah.

Kimberley Valerie 12:24
Most of it at some point.

Andrea Crisp 12:27
Yeah,

Kimberley Valerie 12:27
but we can't live there. So how do we step into that future self?

Andrea Crisp 12:31
Oh that's good. We'll come back.

Kimberley Valerie 12:33
Okay.

Andrea Crisp 12:34
We'll come back to that. Yeah, that's good. Jessica Jovanovich.

Jessica Jovanovich 12:38
Hello!

Andrea Crisp 12:38
Friend, my friend! Tell us a little bit about, I mean, you've been, you've been a guest. So, the listeners know you. They probably love you.

Jessica Jovanovich 12:46
Oh, yeah.

Andrea Crisp 12:47
This is your second, second appearance on The Couragecast, which then you got to know I love you, or I'll see you in here twice. But tell us about yourself, and who you serve.

Jessica Jovanovich 12:57
Well, I'm happy to be back, thanks for having me back. And that episode we did before was great. So, um, we'll touch on some of that today, I'm sure. But like Andrea said, I'm Jessica, Jovanovich, and I'm a strategy and soul coach, focus heavily on manifestation. And so I'm kinda like, Kimberley, I'm like, "How do I introduce myself?" Well, and then I think of like, do I share random facts? No. Okay. Well, we'll keep a serious. No, so okay, how this happened. So now I'm a coach for entrepreneurs. But that's not where I started, I actually started, I've always kind of been an entrepreneur, and always kind of been obsessed with identifying difference makers in life, like what equals happiness? What equals results? How do we move the needle? How do we get from where we are to where we want to be, and like a big dreamer, but also a whole bunch of drives. So trying to find a balance of that. And so then when I started in network marketing, well, 11 or so years ago, that was like, the real time where I wanted to test all of this out. And in network marketing, everybody gets a similar strategy, like, this is how you do the thing. But it does not equal consistent, predictable results for everybody at all. And so I was implementing kind of a strategy and soul combo that I had identified, I guess, almost accidentally for my life, just because I'm a nerd and had tried to pay attention to the difference makers. And I got great results. I was able to build up pretty quickly in a couple of years.

Jessica Jovanovich 14:21
But I didn't realize how, how cool that combo approach was until people started reaching out like, "How did you do that? How can I pick your brain? Can I take you to lunch?" And that eventually led into this coaching situation because I saw people trying so hard, and putting in so much effort, and not getting results. Or I saw people wanting to focus on the inner work, the soul component, and not knowing how to take action. In fact, I would hear people be like, "Well, how do I like manifest and feel good? I feel good. And then I've got to like shift into a different gear to go to work." I'm like, whoa, whoa, this is like one in the same. This is about who you are being and so that's where the manifestation component comes in, where we gotta have a energy, our belief, dialed in and be taking action that's congruent with the results that we desire. So that's what I geek out about, teach people how to do all the time now, how to really take a combo approach to have results without, and really grow your business without that struggle and burnout. And you know, like nerd facts about me, I am all about just I love life. So ways to access and feel joy in the day to day is a big thing I geek out about. So like, in addition to helping people get results in their business, I, my clients will say like, how it's impacted their life. And the best thing is when people are like, I'm just so much happier, I live a more fulfilled joyful life. And that's really what manifestation is all about, because it's just intentionally designing your life. So that's who I am. How I help people. I also like love candy. I have a frenchie, love my husband, have three amazing kids.

Andrea Crisp 15:56
You're hockey mom.

Jessica Jovanovich 15:57
I'm a hockey mom, my son just won the championship this weekend! I'm still, I'm still, I still feel the the buzz from it. Like I'm still shaking from watching that final game. It went into overtime. Oh my gosh. So it was it was wonderful. It was wonderful.

Andrea Crisp 16:15
You know, and you've overcome some things too like you, your manifestation journey, like, you know, what brought you to that? Like, what, what in was a catalyst to to get you to learn about that and implement that in your own life?

Jessica Jovanovich 16:30
Yeah, so there's kind of like two parts to it. So to keep it brief, one was just the type of kid that I was having so much drive and determination. Like, I was like in eighth grade wondering about my college application? Well, this is so good on my college application, can someone track down NYU, and let me know what I need to have? Like, what eight year old thinks about that? I just am a nerd, you guys. And so there was so much drive. But then there's this missing, what about me? Like for what I'm checking all these boxes getting this, these hard classes? For what? For what? For what? For what? What's the point like, what am I after? And so there was kind of this breaking point where almost everything in my life had gone awry, all at this one moment. And I realized that something, something wasn't right, that you can accomplish all these things. But there was still that missing part of for what, so that's when I started looking for something different, something deeper, and I actually kind of by accident, started stumbling across different books, and where I started to develop the language that I was experiencing with manifestation.

Jessica Jovanovich 17:33
And then if we fast forward a few years, I went through a really painful divorce. And there was a lot that went on behind closed doors that, you know, I don't really talk about publicly that was very, very painful. And it was this opportunity for me to really put into practice what I had learned, it's one thing to do it in a business, it's one thing to do it for yourself. But this was like a whole different level. And I really have created a life that I'm so thrilled to be living that I absolutely love. And then that brought me to meeting this incredible man, my husband today, who is just like the best, we have a happy and healthy marriage. And that wasn't what my eyes were set on. It was kind of a natural byproduct when we prioritize intentional creation of our life. So those hard points in my life, kind of going into adulthood and realizing, "Wait, what's all this work for," kind of looking for this deeper meaning and then being in this really excruciating, heart wrenching time in my life, where, again, kind of met with, "I have all these accomplishments? But what else do I want to be implementing? What kind of life do I want to create?"

Andrea Crisp 18:36
That's beautiful. Thank you.

Jessica Jovanovich 19:05
Thank you!

Andrea Crisp 18:39
Tyler, the man of the hour here is joining all these women, his wife is about to give birth to their third baby. Well, it's not actually baby because your daughter's not a baby. By your third child, you're you guys are raising an amazing family. And Mayela is almost almost about to pop here. So thanks for being here.

Tyler Ranalla 19:06
I'm so glad. I know. I messaged you a few days ago, and I was like, "I may or may not have a baby in my hand while we're recording this, so."

Jessica Jovanovich 19:15
Now, now she's just in the delivery room, but he stepped outside for this. Just kidding, just kidding!

Tyler Ranalla 19:23
That was really happening.

Andrea Crisp 19:25
Yeah, very easily, very easily, kind of. Okay, so tell us a little bit about who you are and who you serve.

Tyler Ranalla 19:31
Yeah, so I, I firmly believe that like, who we are, like we do come into this world with a gift, and like a piece of us that we're like, meant to serve. But I think that the ways that we employ that gift always evolves, and that's another like, essence of who you are. So I think my gifts that I've uncovered so far is just like huge heart for kindness and also as a creative, but the ways in my life that I've, I guess, implemented that I've been able to share those gifts has been as a father, you know, as a son, as a brother, as a husband, and also as an entrepreneur and a business owner. And so yeah, that's a bit of who I am. And then who I serve, is also forever evolving. For nine years, I documented people's weddings, with photo and video, and I did marketing and branding for a long time. And now I'm a coach. And even when I started with coaching, it was much more around like, how to, I want to teach people how to have peace and happiness along the journey. Because like you were talking about, Jessica, that was something for me, too, that was missing for a really long time. And, but as I've gotten into this scene, what I have learned in the past, now coming up in new ways, and supporting people, with their businesses and their marketing. And so it's really, it's like forever evolving. By I guess, if I had to boil it down to my goal is to serve those who serve others, and to help them kind of unfold and be who they're meant to be.

Andrea Crisp 21:20
Yeah, you talk a lot about legacy, leaving a legacy, what does that mean to you?

Tyler Ranalla 21:25
Legacy is what we leave behind. And that is not not just what we leave behind when we are not here anymore. But also what we leave behind in every interaction we have. On a day to day basis.

Andrea Crisp 21:45
Yeah,

Jessica Jovanovich 21:46
That's good.

Tyler Ranalla 21:48
That's really good. I know, right?

Kimberley Valerie 21:50
Can I write that down?

Tyler Ranalla 21:52
Write it down? You know, it's cool. It's so it's full circle is that the person who came up with the name legacy coach is Kimberley. We were call and said, "I think your legacy coach", I wouldn't even be really having this conversation without that.

Kimberley Valerie 22:05
Oh!

Jessica Jovanovich 22:07
That's cute.

Andrea Crisp 22:09
Yeah, you know, it's so interesting to me. Because when we think about like, you guys have things that you've each brought up like intentionality around, you know, healing, and, and using our story and using what's happened and not, not bypassing, you know, that healing place, but also then, creating a life that we do love so that we can leave an indelible mark on others, I think is so important. You know, you guys are all parents, grandparents, I'm the only single, non-kid, I've got a dog.

Tyler Ranalla 22:47
It counts!,

Andrea Crisp 22:48
And it does count. But you know, it's really something very interesting that has actually, I've been ruminating on for for quite some time now. And, and that is, you know, when I'm thinking about sourcing from the future, and I'm thinking about myself, I'm like, "Well, I don't know that I'm going to, you know, biologically have any children at this point in the game? If I do, I'll be big surprise to me." But when I think about that, I'm like, Okay, well, how do I leave, you know, behind this, this legacy. And I realized that, it's, it's not about just having your own kids, and about, it's about energetically what we're putting out into the world. And how we are allowing ourselves to be, so what I do in my life is going to impact generations and generations, even if it's not through my own biological children. And, you know, for me, you know, there, there used to be a time where I was like, "Well, I don't know how to source from the future, think about like my future, because it's like, it feels like it's just me solitary." And so somebody may, you know, connect with one of us on this on the conversation be like, you know, I'm at this stage of my life, or this stage of my life, or this stage. And, you know, it doesn't matter what stage of life you are, or where you're at, you get to leave something a mark on the world, and how we live and create our lives really makes a difference.

Kimberley Valerie 24:16
It really does.

Andrea Crisp 24:17
I just want to

Kimberley Valerie 24:17
I really like what Tyler said though, about, like, in the past, I would have thought of legacy is like something you leave behind, like when you pass on, right? Like, I think the majority of us think of it in that bigger kind of macro way. But really as like the legacy of like, every interaction you're having, you're leaving some kind of imprint, or some kind of ripple effect, right? So really looking at those as legacy moments as well.

Jessica Jovanovich 24:43
I think that's really powerful too, because it allows us to be more intentional. Sometimes this idea of legacy seems so far off, like you almost cross your fingers and hope that your funeral they get it right, or that you got it right. But then this way, it's like, "Oh, every interaction that really allows us to be accountable for how am I showing up, who am I being? What's the energy I'm putting out there?" If that's how we're talking about legacy, that's more tangible, that's something we can adjust if we don't totally dig it right now, that's, that's something really exciting to think about. That's why it's definitely going on a post-it-note.

Tyler Ranalla 25:13
Right? Yeah, it's it's powerful. Because your, your ripples that you are creating, every day in this ocean, we call life, they are things that are also self sustaining. So it's like every moment, there's an opportunity to create a ripple that will self sustain into the future, into other people's lives that you will never ever know. And so it's like, what it's like, yeah, with awesome power comes awesome, awesome responsibility. It's not quite the quote, but it's it in that,

Jessica Jovanovich 25:48
That's the quote, that's the Tyler quote.

Tyler Ranalla 25:51
Everything's awesome. I have kids like Legos, you know? So, but yeah, it's, it's, you recognize that, if you even if somebody does have kids, there are moments and I, this happens to me where like, I can look back and be like, "You know what, that in that moment, the ripple that I made, did not lead to the type of legacy I want to leave." You know in those moments with kids and different actions, like, I was on a podcast with our mutual friend, Cory Phelps. And she was, we were talking about legacy, and she was like, "Yeah, if you're, you know, in traffic, and you flip somebody off, it's like, you don't know what, like, what impact that may have on their life, or what what the how that energy will carry through?" And it's, um, you know, the answer is bring it back to this, tell me again, what it is the taking from your future?

Kimberley Valerie 26:45
Sourcing, especially from the future,

Tyler Ranalla 26:47
That is like one filter, to be able to say like, and there's something about legacy that automatically makes it not about you, that I think is really powerful. But that's a way to be able to kind of, yeah, future pace, like what could this create for my life? Or those around?

Andrea Crisp 27:08
So let's, let's go there, because I would love to hear when you think of each of your lives, and you know, the work you're doing right now, what is that, what is that future imprint that you are believing? Or you're you're making right now? Kimberley?

Kimberley Valerie 27:24
Oh!

Andrea Crisp 27:24
Would you say for you?

Kimberley Valerie 27:25
Dang, pick me first.

Jessica Jovanovich 27:27
Thanks Kimberley!

Kimberley Valerie 27:30
In that question..

Andrea Crisp 27:31
She was just like, she was like, yeah..

Kimberley Valerie 27:33
Like, they can ask me

Jessica Jovanovich 27:35
She's gonna go journal on that and be back in an hour.

Kimberley Valerie 27:39
Let me Google the answer. Uh, question again, Andrea?

Jessica Jovanovich 27:42
Even better!

Andrea Crisp 27:44
When you think about the the mark that you're making right now, like, what what is that? What is that ripple effect that you are making?

Kimberley Valerie 27:52
You know, I think the ripple effect that I am making, is that equipping the kind of next generation and coming up, those that are coming up to be able to carry on this bigger messaging about. I know there's a business aspect to it, right? Like we're all building businesses, and earning income, and creating wealth. But there's this bigger picture of I want to say like, it's like a gathering of the masses, so that getting the message out that people do not have to stay with which they are born into or stuck into, that there's a way out, and as we all create these messages, and so it really just helps kind of create that collective consciousness. But also, the more people that do it, is that the more it comes into the awareness of the next person that maybe doesn't understand that their life can be different.

Kimberley Valerie 28:42
And so right now, for me, my real focus is on building up coaches to be able to help facilitate that forward movement at the same time as working through the past stuff, right, helping people remove and release those past anchors to source and move into their future, as opposed to just telling people what to do. Right, so this is kind of like now I'm going to kind of get a little harsh on the coaching industry. Because their coaches are, we all, there's a million of them and all different kinds. But I come from a place where we were actually was trained on conversation, like how to facilitate actual conversation internally, instead of telling people what to do, right? So so many times we're called to coach from our own experiences, but we don't actually know how to help somebody else discover their process, because it's, it's not about me telling you, you know, Andrea, this is how I got through ABC, so this is what you need to do. That is not going to be helpful to you. All that does is keeps continuing the story in your head that you're not good enough where you're at, right? You're still externally sourcing. So that's kind of where I'm at in this phase of my life, my age, my profession, and taking all of those years of lived experience professional training, and my own personal kind of growth and opinions.

Andrea Crisp 30:11
So it's really about like, equipping somebody else and giving them the tools to be able to like source for themselves. Like, you know, say give them a fish, feed them for a day,

Kimberley Valerie 30:22
It really is a Jesus mantra, right?

Andrea Crisp 30:26
You're welcome.

Jessica Jovanovich 30:26
That's good too! Add that to the post-it-note.

Kimberley Valerie 30:30
And that's really where I feel because for years, like I worked for years front line with people in the trenches. And that is not my space anymore. I've even tried it in the online space, I even tried to, but that's my I'm now at a place where I feel like I'm equipping soldiers and equipping the next generation of coaches, I'm doing in the online space. And that's new for me, because I'm a brick and mortar business about three brick and mortar businesses. So yeah.

Andrea Crisp 30:59
No, I love that. And you know, it's so funny, because there's so much of why I went into coaching was for that reason, because I was working within the church. And it was all about telling them what to do, and telling them how to lead and how to be better leaders, instead of teaching them how to figure that out for themselves. And that's where I was like, "This is not working." So, I love how you are taking that and taking it a step further, and saying, "Okay, and I'm going to teach coaches how to do that in a in a really beautiful way." So that's, that's awesome. Jessica, ripple effect, how are you like throwing those pebbles in the pond and (ripple sound effect).

Jessica Jovanovich 31:39
Exciting to think about! You know, something that I've said to my clients before, and something that if I really think about, like, what am I doing, why am I doing this, that will bring tears to my eyes, is is really helping people own their power, live in their power? I think that so many...

Kimberley Valerie 31:55
Amen!

Jessica Jovanovich 31:56
Yes! So many times people...

Andrea Crisp 31:59
About to have church up in here.

Jessica Jovanovich 32:01
I like it, the podcast church. So like, so many times, people are outsourcing their powers, because they're not either they're not trusting themselves, they're looking for somebody else to tell them what to do. Maybe that's a church that they grew up in, and that was what was modeled. Don't trust yourself, someone else has the answer, or, and there's so many different ways that this shows up. But I find that again, and again, and again, in my coaching, it's like getting back to helping the person all have their own power, stand in their power. And from that place, you have alignment, which then will help you determine through intuition, and from that clarity, the next aligned step for you. That is a million times more powerful than anybody giving suggestions. So when I can, you know, help people stand, learn how they can stand in their own power, I believe that the ripple effect of that changes the world. And that's what I have said like, out loud to myself, and that helps me and causes me to be committed to this work into my own progress, and my own expansion, so that I can be clear in what I'm doing, and help other people stand in their power too, so that that that ripple just continues on and on and on.

Andrea Crisp 33:13
The beautiful thing about when people are standing in their own power is, is they let go of the comparison. They let go of the need to to be competitive, because they are sourcing from within, and finding the answers. Like one of the things I was thinking this morning, as I was journaling, actually, I had had kind of felt like a rough weekend where it was just like, oh, just the weight of like life. And this morning, I woke up and I was putting on some music and I was listening, I was just having this quiet time. And I remember just thinking feeling this like Divine Presence, and just like completely permeating my whole being, and how connected I can be to the Divine, to source, to God, whatever people refer to that. And when I am connected into that place, and I'm in my own power and I'm sourcing from that place, I'm not worried about what other people believe. I'm not worried about, you know, whether or not I'm here or there or the next place, because I know whatever's coming through me is because it's coming through that that place, that divine source, you know, collective consciousness, whatever it is you term, and so I love that I think that just helps us to be able to stand in our own power. And people sometimes get caught up in wearing,was it my power, is it GOD Power? Is it you know, it's like well, whatever kind of you know, it's all the same, but when we're connected, in plugged in, that's that's where it's coming from.

Jessica Jovanovich 34:49
Well, and I think, I can I wanted to add something to that like, no matter what word you describe, whether it's God, higher power, Source, inner being, it's that that point of clarity within yourself. So whether that's where you're communing with God, the universe, with yourself, it's, there's an undeniable moment of clarity that you are in peace and stillness that is an indication that you're owning your power. And then there, yeah, that that comparison is not relevant. That fear of judgment doesn't come up because you are in your clarity, or in your zone. And so what comes out is just authentic and real and true. It's not the second guessing the second thoughts, or any of that, it's just, and that's how you can kind of know for yourself if you're there or not. And the more you practice it, the easier it is to be in that place. And to go there first, when, then you have a decision to make or you're wondering what to do to grow your business, or you're wondering how to heal from this wound from the past, like, what is the right journey from you? It's practicing. Okay, now I can tell him in my power, I'm accessing that clarity.

Andrea Crisp 35:52
Mm hmm. Yeah. Which is, you know, we hear so often that it's like, okay, just go to a strategy or, like, try to do this, or try this thing. You know, which is puts us back into that, you know, try, try, try, try versus Wait, and allow, you know, in that allowing space, so I love that. Tyler, what ripple effect are you making?

Tyler Ranalla 36:14
Yeah, I get well, before I answer, I was just I like what Jessica said about people outsource the power. So I think my biggest part of the the punch line of this is like you source your future by insourcing your power.

Kimberley Valerie 36:26
Mm hmm.

Tyler Ranalla 36:28
That was pretty good.

Jessica Jovanovich 36:30
Tyler, just showing up with the quote, right? Yes, I did not know this about you, my friend.

Tyler Ranalla 36:38
Right? But I'll share another one. Yesterday, I thought this is this one I could add, which was, "The most selfless thing you could ever do is love yourself." Which I guess is my answer, in a way is I have a commitment now to like love myself. So that I can come from that place deeper within when I support people.

Andrea Crisp 37:03
Why do you think that helps?

Tyler Ranalla 37:06
Well, the loving yourself part?

Andrea Crisp 37:10
Yeah!

Tyler Ranalla 37:12
I want to make sure that even without my words, energy I bring into any interaction is a sense, where people can feel when they leave it in some way loved, right. And in that space, recognizing their own power, their own connection to another power that's already within them. But I know even for me in the past, when I haven't fully loved myself, if and if a, if I was in a conversation where I was trying to in some way have that conversation be proof that I was worthy of love for something. Right. And I was in that space of ego or validation, or approval. I was like, directly disconnected from that deeper part of me, right, the flow, or the source, or communion with God. And so really, that's what legacy has done for me. It's it like, right away, taps me into, this isn't about me. But that's why that's so important as it is then then I don't need anything from anybody else. And I get to just show up.

Andrea Crisp 38:24
I love that. And I think that's the that's the thing, right? Like when we love ourselves, then we're not looking for everybody else to bring in.

Kimberley Valerie 38:34
Fill those spots,

Andrea Crisp 38:35
All of these things, yeah.

Jessica Jovanovich 38:37
Those deficiencies and the weird things that we do to overcompensate for those deficiencies. It takes us off our path that takes us out of our power.

Tyler Ranalla 38:45
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 38:45
Yeah.

Jessica Jovanovich 38:46
Cuz there's all sorts of confusion.

Andrea Crisp 38:49
And why do you think, Kimberley, that that, like when we think about, like, you know, the past and trauma? Why do you think that, that people tend to want to go back down that road? Instead of like, maybe, you know, loving ourselves? What, why do you think people are stuck there?

Kimberley Valerie 39:04
I think people get stuck in the ish and the muck of it. That's what I think. I think that it can be, you know, and, you know, I started off this interview with you sharing a real significant trauma, right? Like, it's like, it's a kind of blood and guts kind of, but trauma is really just something that shapes us, it can be anything, it could be as simple as your first day of school and leaving your family for the first time. That could be something that sticks within your, your cells, your DNA. And so I think because we, so when we go back to those places, there's some, there's some emotions that are there that need to be either released, or expressed or well and all of those things as well as the learnings, right? And then taking the that time to really be able to say, "Okay, what are the learnings in that, that now if that hadn't happened, or how would that serve me in these ways?" Right. And I just think that as human beings, we have a tendency to stay in the muck longer than we need to. It's like, we feel like we need to like, like, stay and swirl in it. And, you know, we've all had spins, you mentioned, like this weekend, it was a little bit a bit heavier weekend for you. So if all that combines, it can really, it can really keep you stuck for a while, you know what I mean? And so I don't know that we intentionally want to stay in those places. I think that the this, the unconscious, part of our subconscious mind is always tried to protect us, and reinforce things that we don't really want to believe anymore. So there's a lot of different factors that can play. Some people are really used to taking, this is a really, this is going to be a bold statement people, some people, some people are using it...

Andrea Crisp 40:53
Not a post-it-note.

Kimberley Valerie 40:54
Right? Some people are so used to be a victim of circumstance, whatever it is of an external thing, that that's where they get their power from. And so they stay in those places.

Andrea Crisp 41:06
Yeah, yeah. When you move past victimhood, Jessica, and you are creating a life you love. Where, where you going? Like, how are you doing that? Like, maybe someone is in that place where they have identified as a victim, and now now no longer do? And they're like, "Okay, I want to create something out of my life. And I'm not sure exactly how to do that, or where to start", what would you say to them?

Jessica Jovanovich 41:37
You know, I think that's a great question. I think there's several answers to it. But I think I want to say this first, that having gone through lots of different types of traumas, of varying degrees in my own life as well, which I think every human has, I think it is important to get clear for yourself, what is the modality of healing that's appropriate for you, you know? Is it do need to go to some talk therapy, is there another type of therapy, like go get the help that you need, you are worthy and deserving of that help. And sometimes that therapy, sometimes there's a book that will bring about that healing, there's varying ways that you can experience it, but it's not one size fits all.

Jessica Jovanovich 42:12
So I want to say that as kind of the, the overall principle here,

Kimberley Valerie 42:16
Yeah.

Jessica Jovanovich 42:17
Now when you're at this point, where like I actually had, and I know, you've heard this story, I may have even shared it on our podcast episode, where I had gone to London for a weekend, like literally flew 10 hours, was only there for two nights, three days, away from my three little little kids. And it was I was finally away from all the noise of my life for just a short time. And I thought I was going to have this fabulous trip, I had my foot tall my camera, I'd rented a lens, I was an photographer, photographer before I started in network marketing. And instead, I was there and was alone with my thoughts and realized how off course my life was, and a big theme of that was that I was continually living as a victim to my life.

Kimberley Valerie 42:58
Mm hmm.

Jessica Jovanovich 42:59
That although I had such a desire to be happy, it was like this. I kept going back into the cycle of like, "I want to live a happy, fulfilled life. Oh, but look at all this shit that's happening that's holding me back, and going back and back." And there was something about that, where it hurt bad enough. Well, I was walking up the steps into the museum, sobbing with an umbrella. And my photographer as this tourist, that I, it was this line in the sand moment where something had to change. And when I flew home, my life was never, ever, ever the same again. But what really changed, it wasn't just this heart heart, tug trip, it was I decided it was time for me to take responsibility for my life. I could no longer sit and point at who had done what to me, and why I was in what situations and what this relationship was doing. And instead, if I were to take back my own power, that also meant I had to take responsibility for how I was showing up how I was reacting, responding, take my healing into my own hands. And that changed everything.

Jessica Jovanovich 44:00
But that had to be the principle for me number one: 100% responsibility for my life. That didn't mean that things that had actually happened to me were my fault, but I was taking ownership of how I was responding, and what I was doing next. So it was kind of this energy of, of acknowledging what is and then saying, "and now what," and I had never had the true forward, "And now what I'm in charge, I'm this already here. I'm creating something new." That that was the shift.

Kimberley Valerie 44:29
Oh, so beautiful.

Jessica Jovanovich 44:32
Thank you. Thanks, Kimberley. So really, that that was the biggest change for me.

Andrea Crisp 44:41
That's powerful!

Jessica Jovanovich 44:41
But a big change, but let me say this too. You don't have to wait for a big thing to happen. You don't have to wait till this weird trip to London that like gives you this awakening. You can hear this podcast and you can decide, "Hey, I'm ready to own my power a little more. I'm ready for my healing journey. I'm ready to change the legacy that I'm living." And you can decide in this moment that you're going to shift. And again, prioritize your clarity. And maybe take this responsibility of what you're wanting to experience in your life. And start now, don't wait for this big huge earthquake of a situation, you can just simply decide now.

Andrea Crisp 45:17
And you know, to that, because I love how you're both just expressed that. But I also think with that, it's like, oftentimes people are thinking, Well, when I get to this place, then I will be able to own, and I'll move past it, you're owning, and taking responsibility in every step of the journey. So if it's, you know, actually saying, "Okay, I feel like I've been a victim in my life, and I need to go to therapy, and I need to work through that." You're taking ownership. If you have gotten the healing you needed, and you're moving past that, and you're working on a different modality. And you're getting a different type of healing and transformation in your life. You're taking ownership. And when you start to, you know, work in your life in a new way through manifestation. You're taking ownership. And I want to say that to people, because I think sometimes we think we got to wait, we're waiting until this like elusive time, where it's like, "Okay, now, okay, now. Okay, now", you know, like, and no, it's it is now.

Kimberley Valerie 46:22
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 46:22
This moment, you get to take responsibility, and you get to take charge, and you get to say, "Yeah, this from here, right now, I'm owning this." Tyler, for you, what does that look like? When you think about like, you know, you're dad, you're husband? You know, when you think about taking ownership in your life, like, what does that look like? And how does that make a difference in your, in your business and in your family?

Tyler Ranalla 46:50
Yeah, well, similar experience of Jessica, there was a moment, a very specific moment, when the cosmic two by four hit me hard enough that I listened and realized something really needed to change. And if I look at those, you know, as those different chapters of my life, it before, you know, Jessica, you talk about blame. It's like, when you blame others, it takes the you kind of out of your breakthrough, and it is taking that ownership. And I kind of want to ask Jessica question, if that's okay, which was: What is, did you have to recognize the, like power within you before you can take right because if someone you know, if they're pointing out there and looking for people to blame in the most subtle ways, when you bring it into yourself, and you recognize, "Oh, this is up to me", you have to like, one have compassion for not being able to have that before and then to also recognize how powerful you are, how it to what degree did you have to believe in yourself before you were able to kind of take ownership?

Jessica Jovanovich 48:00
You know, again, that's a great question, and I think it'll be different for everyone. But I do believe when we have these cosmic two by four experiences, when we have these moments where the bullshit can subside. Like for me, I had to be in a different country and away from the noise, we have an uncovering of who we really are. Because this work isn't about trying to be someone we're not, it doesn't mean that we are broken, like it's a remembering, a coming home and expanding of who we really are. And so I think in those moments, we can sense that, so we don't have to overcomplicate it, we already have the power, and it's just then making a decision of, I'm ready for something new. And then the steps will, you know.

Kimberley Valerie 48:41
And I would just like to add, so for the person that's maybe like, before having the awareness, if you don't know, you don't know what you don't know. And when to start stepping into this place where you're like, wondering about the noise, or like you get in a place and you're like, "Wait, I haven't heard this kind of, I haven't heard myself, I haven't heard my own thoughts or whatever it is", you've already, that shift, that change is already starting because you've gone from like not knowing, right? Because there's people that aren't in that, it's not even within their realm at this point. But as soon as that internal shift is made, so suddenly that they start maybe being curious, "Why am I being angry all the time or whatever, why am I not happy? I have this this this", that shift has already taken place. So where those moments of clarity shows up for each individual is different. It could be, yeah, a slam across the, I think yours was the back I think Tyler, right? That took you like, mine was cancer or whatever. It could be as minor as you going for a little trip all the weekend. I had a absolutes wild moment on January 2, 2022 at 2am that absolutely blew my mind. I had gut wrenching pain in the middle of the night and maybe get up and and the awareness I had in that moment because you know what, eight months before that, I'd already started the little niggle thought, right, somewhere deep down inside. So I think that that part we don't really see, person to person. But when that little shift of like, you don't know what you don't know, to like, what is that, that wonder? That's where the magic starts.

Andrea Crisp 50:19
Now I'm curious. I'm curious, what did you learn?

Kimberley Valerie 50:23
Me?

Andrea Crisp 50:24
Yeah!

Kimberley Valerie 50:25
Oh, I have a whole podcast on it, honey, it is gigantic.

Andrea Crisp 50:31
Like, she's like teasing with that.

Kimberley Valerie 50:33
I have recorded it in my private Facebook group, and then I have a, my husband and I have a podcast together. And he, I am recording it and releasing it in that because it was pretty powerful was pretty powerful.

Jessica Jovanovich 50:47
So stay tuned.

Andrea Crisp 50:48
Yeah, I was like talking about a story...

Jessica Jovanovich 50:51
I want to...

Andrea Crisp 50:52
Right there!

Jessica Jovanovich 50:52
I want to say something with what you said, Kimberley, because I think that's so key, like just this. If someone's listening to this podcast, you're already in the habit of wanting to understand yourself better. You're wanting to increase your awareness, and that journey is never done. It's not like all of a sudden you're there, and it's perfect. It's like this beautiful little practice of like, "Let's capture my attention. Oh, I'm curious about that, oh, I'm gonna lean into it." Like, that's what, that's what transformation is all about. It's these little, these little steps done. Even if you have this cosmic wake up call, it's still these little steps that create the transformation. So you're, you're on your path, you're on your path.

Tyler Ranalla 51:30
That's it. This is called The Couragecast, right? And I think any, any transition in life always begins with a question: Could this be different? And sometimes the most courage you can have is just asking that question. And if you all you're, you are already in that space, of exploring, and that just listening to this is an act of immense courage.

Andrea Crisp 51:55
And what you guys didn't realize is I'm actually interviewing you for, to become the host of The Couragecast.

Jessica Jovanovich 52:03
I'm in! Oh, wait, did I make it?

Andrea Crisp 52:04
200th episode, guess what, new host!

Tyler Ranalla 52:06
By ourselves?

Andrea Crisp 52:08
Yeah!

Jessica Jovanovich 52:09
No one else could ever host this, Andrea, we need you. We need you to guide us all along.

Andrea Crisp 52:15
Thank you. You know, it was so funny, I was thinking about, you know, where I've been, you know, you know, when you get to a milestone in life, you obviously look back, right. And the importance of, you know, looking at this sourcing from the future, for me, also looks back at episode one. And also the year before episode one, when I had this idea to have a podcast, and an idea in my mind of how I wanted to, you know, empower other people, and how to share stories of women who are overcoming these immense odds in their life, and how things have shifted and changed in 200 episodes, because obviously, I've shifted and changed in 200 episodes.

Andrea Crisp 53:02
And the stories, some of them are very similar to one another, but yet, so very different, because it's lived experience from somebody who is telling their story. And who is, you know, having that awareness, as you guys have mentioned, and, and being intentional with our lives. And I think that's the beautiful part about when you think about sourcing, you know, from the future, it's like, you realize that every step of courage that you have to take in your life, is because at the end of, you're actually making the decisions from the future, from yourself in the future. And, and right now you get to live in the present, but you can either access from the past, or you can access from the future. And when we're accessing always from the past, we are probably going to be making decisions that are not going to bring us into that courageous place. But when we're taking action from the future, it's going to help us to say, "Okay, yeah, I can get there. I can take one more step. I can keep moving forward." And when I think about you know, like, what is beyond the 200th episode, like, do I have any more? I think Alex and I talked about this in in the 200th episode, which you're gonna hear on the 22nd. But it's all about like, is there more like, do I have anything else left to say? And, and I wonder about that sometimes, like, I wonder like, how much more growth is there? And I want, I want to ask you guys that question. And I want you to just to speak into that for yourselves even, like when you think about your own life, and how much more there is for you, what would you say, and I'm not going to ask anybody specifically to jump in this time. I'm going to let you so whoever wants to go.

Tyler Ranalla 54:50
I love this question so much, and it goes back to what we said about that. Like, you know if you have this power inside of you, that is in some way not you, you have a connection to something that is limitless. Like life is progressive, it is forever evolving. And you have that wonderful choice to continually grow and expand, and there, there is never a stop to it. Like forever available and expansive.

Andrea Crisp 55:32
Yeah, that's good.

Jessica Jovanovich 55:33
You know, I love that. And I want to clarify one thing, because it's like, how much more is there? This isn't about to dos. This isn't about the grind. This isn't about the work. This isn't about earning your worthiness, earning your worth, becoming enough. This is, this sourcing from the future is this limit, limitless, beautiful, expansive place. And, you know, when we are in alignment, we're primed for max expansion, and frankly, life would be freaking boring, if not. Like how would we want to play this game of life if there was like, "Alright, already at the end? There you go. You passed. Go, you got $200. You're at the end of the Candyland slide." Like all those things. You're like, "Well, I was fun." Like, that's not fun. We want more expansion. And who is it that. I just heard Tony Robbins say this, like, "If you're not progressing? You're not what was the it's like, you're not happy? You're not alive, you don't feel alive..."

Tyler Ranalla 56:23
Not growing, you're dying?

Jessica Jovanovich 56:24
Yeah, it's like people are progressing, and intentionally putting their mind to progress -- are fulfilled. That's where our fulfillment is found, because we are becoming more of who we already are. We're discovering who we already are. And we do have this choice where we can make decisions in our life based on limitation of the past, or we can tap into the unlimited possibility of the future. And every day, we get to decide which direction do we want to go! And the expansion -- do that, it's like way more fun!! So, I, to answer fully your question now I think, never ending, just keep going well, it feels good. And just be on this journey of discovering, showing up more authentically, more real. And you'll notice how your whole like soul just continually expands beyond what it was, you know, on episode one, episode 200, episode 2000. Well, I'm inviting myself back, we'll be here episode 2000, Andrea.

Andrea Crisp 57:20
I better be recording every day for that.

Kimberley Valerie 57:24
I think the one, two things that keep coming up to me is like, don't try not to be in a state of conclusion. A fixated state of conclusion, where you think, you might think, this is it? Instead, it's, again comes back to that curiosity, that explorative kind of question is like, what else is possible? That I haven't experienced that I'm not aware of, that I haven't entertained. You know, again, it pairs with what Tyler and Jessica said, it's, it's not about reaching a destination. It's really just the continued expansion for creating a life that you love now, in the moment where you're feeling fulfilled, that you're making an impact, if that's what you're drawn to and influence and all those kinds of things. I think the removal of conclusion is really the beginning of the expansion and being that that curious state.

Tyler Ranalla 58:21
Love that.

Jessica Jovanovich 58:21
That's so good. That's so good.

Andrea Crisp 58:24
These are like I mean, I don't even know what to do with all this. This is so good. That's it's kind of blowing my mind, right? Not that I'm, not that I'm surprised I asked you guys on here for a reason. I knew that I was going to get this kind of magic. So I do appreciate it.

Kimberley Valerie 58:37
Okay, so can we go on a speaking tour together? Should we should be?

Andrea Crisp 58:41
Yeah. Live retreat?

Kimberley Valerie 58:44
Take the show on the road.

Andrea Crisp 58:48
You know, I think the person that's listening today, whoever is listening to this episode, and however they stumbled upon this particular episode, which is 199. And, you know, maybe you came because you listen to Jessica's podcast, or you're part of Tyler's sphere of influence, or you're in Kimberley's coaching program, and you're listening to this, I want to invite you into this space for yourself to to really source from the future and to know that you already have everything you need right now. And the growth that you're gonna experience is just going to keep going, as each of these amazing humans have said. I feel so honored to have like shared this time with you too, I, when I think about moving forward myself and taking the podcast in even a more expansive direction. I'm so thankful and grateful that I get to do it with you guys, and I love for you guys to leave even just one last thing, you know, morsel, anything that you want to say that you haven't already to share with the audience today?

Andrea Crisp 1:00:10
And there was silence.

Andrea Crisp 1:00:11
You know, I know right?

Andrea Crisp 1:00:13
How in the world are the three you quiet?

Kimberley Valerie 1:00:15
I'll go first, is the morsel for the person listening or the people listening? First of all, Andrea, I just want to say what a message of hope, how you explained. And what you said, just prior to this is that I've just really, I started to just feel the hope that you were leaving. And what you're imparting. So this is beautiful. But what I would I what I would always say is, just start being curious. Just start with curiosity. I mean, it seems very simple. It is very simple. It's not easy. But be curious.

Andrea Crisp 1:00:55
Yeah, that's good.

Jessica Jovanovich 1:00:57
All right, I can go next. And yes, I second what Kimberley said, I just was soaking up all of your last words, just in letting them be in my soul, because you just always bring so much hope and soothing, peaceful words, on your podcast. So thank you for that. Mine are some questions. I think if were that I that we can journal on that we can ask ourselves. So it goes right along with that curiosity thing that if we're sourcing from the future, if that's the theme of this podcast, then we got to start thinking a little differently, too, right? And that's really about who are we being? And so we can say, "Who do I need to be to have the things that I desire?" So instead of just trying to be in the same state, and have a different type of life, we can kind of jump into that elevated state, that expansive state and say, "Who do I need to become? Who do I want to become?" And that's like, the most fun question, Who do I want to become if everything's possible, if I'm picking from the possibility of the future, where it's unlimited, who do I want to become? And then really saying, from there, who would I be? What would I do if I already had this outcome I desired, and really dwell in that state on day to day that kind of lets you get out of the previously reinforced pattern of life?

Kimberley Valerie 1:02:11
Yeah.

Andrea Crisp 1:02:11
Hum.

Tyler Ranalla 1:02:13
Nice.

Andrea Crisp 1:02:13
Yeah, that's good.

Jessica Jovanovich 1:02:14
And I love you. I love all the listeners. Can I end that?

Andrea Crisp 1:02:20
Yes, you can.

Tyler Ranalla 1:02:22
Um, I guess the only thing is, as someone starts to really play with sourcing from your future, is to let go of the need to have the answers and the entire roadmap. I think for just, you know, grow, grow where you're planted, to see what's the next right step. And I think the best way to figure out what the next right step is, is just to follow to the joy, I think the language of our intuition is joy, and just look at what's the next thing that could bring joy, and just follow those breadcrumb trails. I think that's how I've sourced from the future is from that feeling of joy, and then just going from there and being available, and trusting, and it's when I have tried to have all the answers that I've had the most resistance. So that's just the last bit I would want to add.

Andrea Crisp 1:03:23
That's good. Oh, man, thanks. You know, it's when I was teaching back in my, I think my second year of teaching, I remember having this moment, and I've shared it on the podcast before, but it's been a while. I remember having this moment, one of my students came in and was playing the guitar, and he was learning and he was getting better and better every time he came into the classroom and would play. And I had this moment when I was sitting there thinking that I wanted to be doing something different with my life. I didn't want to be a high school music teacher. I wanted to be a singer-songwriter, and I want to be on a stage and I wanted to be singing in front of 1000s of people lights on me was the goal. That was the dream. And I remember having this moment, I sat at the piano. I was I feel like I cry every time I think about it. And in the still quiet moment, I had this the voice, this inner voice said to me, if you will invest into your students, you'll have a bigger platform than if you've ever did it on your own.

Andrea Crisp 1:05:07
And I remember thinking, that was the moment, that was the line in the sand for me where I, I said, "Okay, I'm not making this about me anymore. I'm making it about them." And 200 episodes in, and I don't know, if I could have said it any better than Tyler. I think it's about you as a listener, and where you're going in your life, and what you have to offer the world. And as long as I can, I'll keep bringing you episodes and amazing guests like these people here. But one of my gifts that I've known as, as long as I can remember, is not just courage, but is to encourage. And so if I can encourage, I'm going to encourage these three amazing humans. But I want you to hear something for you, because whatever I'm going to say is probably for you, too.

Andrea Crisp 1:06:06
So, Kimberley, I am so grateful and thankful that you are in my life, for your voice, for your uniqueness, and for your ability to see past and beyond what others can see and speak truth, and keep moving things forward. And never, never saying die. But you have this kind of Energize, Energizer Bunny about you where you're gonna keep going and going and going. And I find that so, that quality is so inspiring. And I'm so grateful for you, that you've continued to reach out and to be a friend, and to be a mentor and a coach. And I just want to say thank you.

Kimberley Valerie 1:06:52
Thank you.

Andrea Crisp 1:06:52
And, Jessica, I want to say thank you for continuing to impart wisdom into my life, for leading and guiding in such a beautiful and magnetic way, showing me what is possible. And I'm continually inspired by your life. And so I want to thank you.

Andrea Crisp 1:07:15
And Tyler, for your ability to draw people in with such a kind heart, and to speak words of wisdom in a way that don't, that doesn't feel like it's forceful. It just feels like it's so beautiful. And it's holding space for others in such a wonderful, wonderful way. And so I want to encourage the three of you as you go out, and do amazing things and take brave steps in your own life that everyone listening can do the same. And I'm so grateful to have you on the 190th episode of The Courage cast.

Kimberley Valerie 1:07:54
Thank you.

Jessica Jovanovich 1:07:54
Thank you.

Andrea Crisp 1:08:00
As I ball my face off, well.

Tyler Ranalla 1:08:06
Is the recording still?

Andrea Crisp 1:08:07
Still recording. I won't play this. Thank you so much.

Tyler Ranalla 1:08:15
That was beautiful. That was a really exciting episode.

Jessica Jovanovich 1:08:20
I'm excited to hear it.

Andrea Crisp 1:08:22
Me too. Me too. I kind of knew I was like, I'm like, there's going to be magic to happen. I feel like in the past couple episodes, I've just come in with an openness for this magic. And magic has happened each and every time and I'm, I, even though I said it on, you know, the recording, but I am truly grateful and honored to have you. And I'm grateful that you're in my life and honored that you're in my life. So, I just want to honor what you do in the world. And say thank you.

Jessica Jovanovich 1:09:01
We love you. Thank you letting us be here for you.

Andrea Crisp 1:09:05
Okay, friends, I have all the warm fuzzies right now and honestly, I have never felt so grateful for the people in my life, and for you as well. Even if we've never met in person before. I want to thank you for being on the journey with me and I would love to connect with you over on Instagram you can find me at @andreacrispcoach or the podcast @the.couragecast. And I'm also going to make sure to have the links for Kimberley, Jessica, and Tyler in the show notes so that you can connect with them as well listen to their podcasts, watch their all their amazing things on social media, and I just want to thank them for hanging out with me.

Andrea Crisp 1:09:49
Our 200th episode airs on February 22, 2022. And I cannot wait to share it with you. So don't forget that we're gonna be doing a giveaway, and if you share an episode by screenshotting that you've listened to it and tag me on Instagram, you're going to be entered into the giveaway. Another way you can do that is by rating, reviewing, and subscribing, screenshot that as well and tag me and you'll be entered in for a bonus entry. So, until next time, remember, you have everything you need to live bravely.

Andrea Crisp 1:10:25
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